Anyone use a Ringmat on a TT


No mat? felt? Ringmat? I know you guys who are into vinyl can give me the pro's and con's. ( I have a Music Mall MMF-7...before you ask me what TT I have...LOL!)
mlbattey
Hi Sean/Aceto,

All this about the Ringmat being a band aid?
I have no axe to grind other than I use them on two vastly differing tables.I have tried all sorts of mats and still prefer these to anything I have tried(on two of my tables).
I agree they might be overpriced so after deciding I prefered the 'presentation' bought the second one used.
Check out the Shindo labs and various others for seriously overpriced mats.
I reckon there's more labour in a ringmat than a circle cut from a sheet of carbon fibre mat that costs $300+.
A mat, like an arm or cartridge will alter the sound but not nearly as much as what the table is sited on.
Both Linn & Xerxes sound much better on a wall shelf mounted to a solid outside wall as opposed to a table/rack.
IMO opinion the Xerxes mini table should have been part of the table and the Trampolin is a piece of utter nonsense.
Heavy/massy shelves are contrary to Linn's philosophy as is a second suspension system (what the h--l are wobbly feet if not the former?)
The table that really made my jaw drop was an Oracle Delphi/Sumiko/Koetsu but that was 20 years ago and the sound my Linn or Xerxes make after lots of work & tweaking just makes me wonder
a)how they would compare to the Oracle ?
b)how can I get my cd player (which I love) to close the gap and sound as much like 'real' musicians in the room ?

The first is not easy to answer here as dollars go straight to pounds and an Oracle costs £3,200 here in it's basic form.
Results with home made Lenco plinths have caused me to question the money I have tied up in the tables I already have - this is not knocking the manufacturers - they have their overheads.
I just wonder what would be achieveable by virtue of DIY when you look at the old Empire used by Atmasphere - if guys who make amps as radical as their products decide to spend that kind of money 'tarting' up a relic, there must be some merit.
Horses for courses, the more of the wall the better and as long as it's pleasing on the ears.
Jeez, wine & posting :
Aceto, if you can get a Cetech carbon fibre sub chassis for the Linn, try it. It cures most of the negatives laid against the Linn sound and is fairly cheap compared to Cirkus & Lingo mods, which to my mind are way overpriced for the advantage gained.
SME's and Avid's make me wonder if a metal guitar would sound as sterile??

Si
Simon: The Oracle is the table i had in mind when talking about doing it better than the Linn to begin with. I also agree that "wobbly feet" aren't good things under a table. Sean
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sean....or anyone ..... setting your TT on a marble block? Is that supposed to help? My rack is heavy and with the 80lb Bryston amp on the bottom shelf would seem to be enough??????My room is on a concrete slab plus carpet.
Mlbattey, I have mine on a marble block, but I added Black Diamond cones on top of the marble, and topped it with a their pure carbon graphite "shelf". I also have a concrete slab plus carpet, but my stands terminate in spikes through the carpet. I would still be concerned that your Bryston anchor does not defeat all of the vibration that can ascend the stand anyway. Vibration is pernicous and follows any available path. But if you are following the above, my TT is so flawed in design that all countermeasures are mere band-aids on the real problem.
Aceto, i have a question for you if you don't mind. Which model AR turntable do you have and between the AR and the Linn, both in stock form placed on the same support surface, which one is more susceptable to air-borne acoustic feedback and / or heavy footfalls / floor-borne vibrations? Sean
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