"HELP" tired Koetsu

Jackcob, I wasn't trying to start anything, as it was my question to Twl that brought out the strong opinion. I was trying to qualify some of the information he is giving me and that gives me some frame of reference. An opinion was what I was after. I am in the throws of an analoge mid life crisis, and Twl is trying to help me out. I know that cartridges are very system dependant and as subject to taste as speakers. I have a friend that I have not seen in many years who I know for a fact is a good listener. We communicate some via e-mail now. I do trust his judgment on things of an audio nature. This friend of mine used an expensive ClearAudio MC and likes it very much. I have to assume that his system is voiced to work well with it. His system is very different than Twl's. I am sure that they both get good sound from their systems as I am confident that you do as well using the Black Beauty. In no way was I trying to stir up any bad feelings with my question. As experienced audiophiles we know that how you set up your system can be just as important, if not more so in some cases, than what gear you own. Thanks for all the info.

Twl, the McDonald's seat thing is an urban legend. Seat turnover is not an issue in your typical McDonald's. 55% of their business only uses the drive-thru and never enters the building. The number of seats in a restaurant is actually set by local building codes which usually specifies more seats than McDonald's own studies indicate are necessary. What most people see as a lack of seats is usually a problem of seat grouping and layout.

I don't have any bad feelings at all and was not upset in the least by TWL's strong opinion. I just wanted to put in a good word for my beloved black beauty. lol

Twl do you use a shelter? Maxgain you need to dump that shure thing and get a OC9 brand new only $299. I know you will love it, Always quite. better Musically than any CD. Twl what do you think about the OC9? ever tried one? I remember reading a old review about the OC9 15 years ago, the guy said don't let the low price scare you off. Meaning just because it was only $400 at that time, it was a giant killer. also I recently read a review of that final tool table, and the guy says at the end, "on this table he heard a OC9 mimic a new Lyra Helikon. I think there is some sort of a conspiracy to hide the fact of how good this MC is.
Fermer said 6 months ago he had a review of the new OC9 for us next month. The review never went to print, well not yet anyway.
About lp's I also buy and sell allot on eBay just check the guys feedback first, and if the guy or sometimes girl (ya like they know anything about vinyl) sounds like they don't know how to grade, THEY DON'T.
I am getting into a lot of new music like someone else said, new to me. This stuff is 30 years old and most of the progressive rock that I Love, some on the, old Virtigo swirl label, is GREAT!!! and you can always find Jazz or Classical.
I also have a old vanderstein OL-1 mc step up device, class A operation, I don't need any more.
Bye for now guys,
Roni

Hi Rockinroni.

Yes, I use a Shelter 501 right now, and it's very nice.

I have not owned an AT OC-9 personally, but have heard them many times. They are quite a nice cartridge, and have been sort of a cult item for years. Not in the league of the Shelter, but better than alot of cartridges in its price range. I'd have to say that on my arm, I prefer a Denon DL103R in the lower price ranges, but that's a personal preference, and some may like the OC-9 better.