Biwire oval 9's, single Zen Satori - surprised


I have to say I'm shocked. I have a pair of Von S vr3's and love them. I was using the satoris non bi-wired with satori jumpers. I bought a pair of oval 9 shotguns and was so convinced they would be that much better I Put my zens up for sale. Wow!! I so wanted them to be better, but the mids were muddy it sounded like a small radio. I tested, checked and tightened. I put my zens back and aaaaahhh. What the heck happened? I thought biwired speakers should be biwired! Is the quality that different.? I took the zens off sale and look for the 9's. What do you all think. Thx
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Borrow another pair of Zens and try biwiring with them. That way you isolate the variables, so you'll learn the impact of biwiring independent of a change in brand of cables.
Drubin makes a good point, and I agree with Kijanki's assessment as well. If you haven't already done so, maybe try hooking up one leg of the Oval 9s (being careful not to let any of the unused terminals touch each other of course), which may give you some insight into how the VSs react to biwiring vs. single wire hookups apples to apples. Also, how long did you have the Oval 9s in your system -- maybe they need some more time to break in or settle into your system?

FWIW, I have both Satori shotguns and single wire and prefer the shotguns by a fair margin. Increased clarity and dynamics are the main benefits, but whether that's due to my speakers working better biwired, decreased capacitance of the higher overall gauge of wire, etc. I don't know. Probably worth a look if you're up for it. By the way, what kind of improvements were you looking for and what characteristics of the Oval 9s had you convinced they would be that much better? Just curious (I've never heard the Oval 9s myself).
Thanks for the various feedback. I read that the VR's should be bi-wired, Albert himself has a whole analysis on the VS website. I was very happy with the Satoris and Zen jumpers, they sounded better then anything else I have ever used in my system. With that in mind I saw the Oval 9's here at a decent price, I read they were supposed to be transparent, with slight emphasis on the bottom end. Being they were used, I assumed decent break in. I actually checked and re-checked my connections, but the mid's suffered. I've realized that cables are so incredibly system dependent its almost impossible to assume what the sound will be from system to system. I bought a separate Satori run, with bananas, I currently have spades. That will give me a true bi-wire opportunity.
I've never gotten anything special from bi-wire. Bi-amp yes, just not extra wire. Single wire to the HF posts and jump to to the LF posts.