Brinkmann vs TW Acustic


Was wondering how these two German manufacturers compare.
Bardo vs Raven One
Oasis vs Raven GT
LaGrange vs Raven AC
Is there a unique sound signature that goes up with the range? Which is a better value? (i.e. maybe the Oasis is better than the Raven AC)
Have heard both in show conditions, but could not pin-point their contribution to the end result as the rest of the system was unfamiliar as well.
iaxelrod
Hi Andrew

I just tried your playing a LP under the KAB disc. The speed was exactly the same as no lp playing. 33 and stable :-)

Can't say I have ever subscribed to the notion that stylus drag effects the speed on any decent turntable.

I have the OEM tw stilpoint ultras. They are designed to have a gap between bottom and top of still point. Funny, I tried Still point Ultra SS and I preferred the sound of the OEM aluminium's.

Cheers
tdaudio, I completely agree with you about recording process and all the behind the scene work. DG certainly made it well known that they are not there to capture the performance as is but edit and manipulate the recording session in such way that they think is the best way to listen through 2 channel systems. Whether you agree with their philosophy or not is up to personal preference. I have not made much point about that since I was really concentrate more on timing/speed issue with Timeline.

Actually I am a bit disappointed as there is not much of a comment regarding Brinkmann which is a turntable that I am actually curious about. All I recall regarding TW vs Brinkmann is that there were some old threads back when TW was still relatively new, it seemed that quite a few people made a migration from Brinkmann to TW.Whether that is still an accurate sentiment to the current Brinkmann and TW, I have no idea.
Hello Downunder

In my case, with one motor, the speed slows down ( as observed by the 33 mark moving to the left of the strobe disk) when the needle is in the groove. Are you using more than one motor?

Andrew
Hi Andrew

I have the AC-3, so 3 motors.
Never had an issue to align the belt in the middle of each motor pulley. Just adjust the feet slightly and after some slight changes the belt aligns perfectly. My VPI HRX belt always vibrated all over the place, so the TW a lot better:-)

Are you sure the 33 drifts slightly to the left? KAB says left is faster.

BTW, what mat do you use, or are you direct to the copper plate. I have tried the millenium, Boston and no mat. I found the Living Voice is quite a bit better than all of these. Dgad recommended it a while back.

Cheers
Hi,3 of my friends bought TW ACUSTIC tables after hearing my well set up table.These guys all Love there tables.