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Considering analog...but nervous

Well, I've been here before. Once again, I'm thinking of venturing into the Analog world, but before doing so, I wanted to pose a few questions to fellow agoners to make sure my head (ears?) are in the right place.

Some Background: My current setup consists of a Modwright Transporter, Musical Fidelity KW 500 (hybrid tube pre/SS Amp), and Focal/JM 1027be speakers. My entire current collection is digital and I have NEVER owned Vinyl before NOR have I ever heard a high-end Analog setup.

My Tastes/musical likes: I am all about soundstage and imaging. Vocal accuracy is hugely important and instrument placing (hence, imaging) are part of what I look for when listening. Genre wise, mostly rock, folk, acoustic and blues. Some jazz as well. I generally try to stick to labels that produce good-sounding material...not over-compressed garbage.

On with the questions:

1. One of the biggest things that has kept me from trying Vinyl thus far is the concern of excessive hiss and crackle/pop that vinyl is known for. Is it safe to assume that purchasing new Vinyl and played on a higher quality setup will reduce (eliminate?) the pops and crackle sounds? I have no problem purchasing exclusively new vinyl, knowing full well that the process of shopping used is what draws so many to this market...

2. If I purchase new vinyl, only play it on a decent player, and store it properly, will I still have to clean it? How expensive is a cleaning machine? Are there (reasonable), less expensive alternatives to a cleaning machine?

3. Based on my integrated (tube-pre,SS amp) and speakers, are these a good match for Vinyl? Does anyone know if the KW 500 Phono input is adequate for a good turntable? My digital system has a tendency to be on the bright side for a lot of material, but not everything. Strangly, even at 31 years old, I can still hear up to around 19Khz so I'm a bit picky about the highs...

4. How complicated is the setup of the TT? Being that I've never worked wtih it before, I'm somewhat intimidated by the "setup" requirements of the equipment. What are the core requirements/knowledge to properly setup a TT.

5. And finally, the most subjective question of all. If I had a budget of about $1,000-$1,500 for a TT, Tonearm and Cartridge, what would be a good starting place? I'd obviously be looking for used here from Agon.

I know this was a long post so thanks for hanging in and reading it all :-). Any feedback would be greatly appreciated.

-gh0st
fatgh0st
raquel
841 posts
 
Vandy's are dynamic (cone) loudspeakers, not electrostatics. But they use simple first-order crossovers that are well implemented - very good speakers.

It's impossible to say what you were hearing, as you were listening to two unfamiliar systems in unfamiliar venues. The second system was obviously a lousy set up (a room full of equipment that was, in addition, almost certainly overdamped, based upon your description).

If you want to know what a turntable sounds like, I would see if Dave Lewis Audio or Overture currently has a high-end table set up on premises. Overture is a serious shop by current standards, but I don't know if they really know what they're doing with analog or give a shit (most places don't and don't). Dave Serota (Dave Lewis Audio), on the other hand, is a committed two-channel guy with some very serious analog clients - my guess is that his shop is where you would be most likely to get good exposure. Some people think he's a dick - he's been great with me, but I've been a customer.
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swampwalker
5,138 posts
 
fwiw, Vandersteens are not electrostats, or panels of any kind. Conventional dynamic drivers in an unconventional "boxless" design..
fatgh0st OP
43 posts
 
Wow...based on their appearance, I just assumed. I'd never actually heard a true Electrostat before so I suppose I still haven't! They sounded very nice though...

-gh0st
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mapman
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Remember you auditioned vinyl on totally different systems, so whatever you heard different or liked or not, there was more to it than just vinyl playing in place of CD.
johnnyb53
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Your description of the second audition sounds like the symptoms typical of an overdamped room. Having a dozen other loudspeakers in the room, especially a small one, would act like tonesuckers, absorbing the low level detail that made the first presentation so appealing. Given that Pro-Ject makes the Music Hall turntables, and that they share same/similar tonearms, the differences you heard *may* be room-related. Could also be everything else--cables, warmup time, component selection, even the cartridge setups themselves.
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