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MFSL Super Deep Cleaner or Enzyme?

I've been using RRL, now MFSL cleaners for several yrs. So when I ran out, I ordered more. However, they now make an Enzyme cleaner. So I ordered the Enzyme cleaner and the Super Deep Cleaner. I used to use the Super Deep cleaner, followed by the Super record wash as per their previous instructions. However when the new cleaners got here I noticed that there is twice the amount of Enzyme than the Deep Cleaner. So, I'm wondering why I should use the Super Deep Cleaner at all. The Enzyme cleaner is supposed to be as good or better than the Deep cleaner from what I have read. And it is cheaper than the deep cleaner. So, is there a reason why I should spend nearly twice the $$$ and use the Deep cleaner instead of the Enzyme?
FWIW, I have been using the Enzyme cleaner and rinsing with distilled water, using my Nitty Gritty cleaning machine. The records shine like they have not done before. The Enzyme cleaner has proven to be a great cleaner IMO. The deep clean is good, but I'm not sure its as good as the Enzyme.

Anyway, anyone have any thoughts on this?
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calbrs03
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I use the enzyme cleaner and steam. I was skeptical at first, but after listening to the records cleaned with Mofi, I wouldn't use anything else. You don't need much to get a really clean, click-free surface.
dougdeacon
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I was an RRL user for years, but always found it beneficial to use enzymes on noisier records. Back then I used Buggtussel, which eliminated many clicks and pops. Vacuuming is done on our Loricraft PRC-3.

When AIVS came out with its current fluids, including an enyme step, I tried them and they worked much better. I also learned that RRL Super Vinyl Wash sometimes contained a leave-behind lubricant that made for quiet backgrounds but smothered the life out of the music. Grrr! IME AIVS's Enymatic is the ONLY fluid that removes that layer. (Note: MoFi branded SVW does not contain any lubricant.)

Then MoFi came out with its own enzyme fluid, which you're trying now. I A/B'd that extensively with AIVS and had a slight preference for the latter, partly for the reason noted above. Either enzyme fluid is clearly better than Deep Cleaner, which I find does little. I have some left over that I'll never use.

FWIW, my current regimen involves 4 AIVS fluids, including two rinses with their Ultra Pure Water (audibly superior to plain distilled, at least in our system). Every step adds audible benefits or we wouldn't do it, but it does take time and cost more. How far one chooses to go is of course a personal decision.

As for steaming, I've tried it and I've A/B'd a friend's steam-cleaned record with my AIVS regime. No contest. If anyone wants to buy a barely used steamer...
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theo
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I have been using the MFSL Enzyme with the Walker step 3 rinse on new vinyl and have been pleased with the results. I continue to use the Walker 4 step prelude on used vinyl. I doo use L'Art du son on some new as well, I really can't say which is better. I have tried the L'Art Du son then gone back withe the MoFi and not heard any difference. But on new I think once the release agent is removed there can't be any improvement.
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