Empire 208 turntable


Is this a worthwhile investment at $500? belt is new as is cart. Tonearm in fine condition although I've read it's best change it. Mechanically in excellent shape. Cosmetically fine. Just wondering wondering what the concensus is about this table.
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I recently purchased one from an antique store in my town for $225.00. It was really taken good care of. The tonearm is very limited on what cart you can use. I replaced the original arm with a Jelco SA-750D. I am very happy with the outcome. The Jelco arm is kinda clunky like the TT so they make a good match visually and sonically. If you pay $500.00 for yours it mite not be cost effective to put a new arm on it at the Jelco's price level anyway...
Thanks, Dklk. I was wondering what kind/expense of tweaking was necessary. I've read many articles about how good a table the Empire is, but, again, lots of tweaking.
Yes, it's worth it and the arm (model 98) is better than most think. The Denon 103 & 103R sound really good on this heavy arm. Key here, heavy arm for the Denons. You really can't get away with elliptical stylus or finer because of the set geometry with this arm. Your stuck with the overhang and off-set angle. I loaded up the headshell with 4 grams of blue tac and it sounds even better. Total effective mass now at app. 24 grams. It really amazes me because of how inexpensive my Empire TT set-up is and it sounds a bit better than my TD124/Grace 840FB/103R which I have a lot more invested in.
IMO the 208 is the one to mess with because you can put a modern arm on it. We did so much tweaking to it we finally even made a new plinth for it

http://www.atma-sphere.com/products/208.html

If you want a simple effective tweak, get rid of the 45 rpm adapter and get the lip milled down. Then install a modern platter pad on it. Finally, there is a concentric well on the bottom of the platter that can be filled with various damping compounds. You will hear an immediate improvement!