tuner better than turntable ? thread.


Hi,I started that thread a few months ago, and had said the top turners sound better than top turntables.

Well, I have to clarify, tuners like the Dynalab 108 and 109
in their stock form are very good but not as good as the best tables, but

a modified tuner with teflon coupling caps will actually
exceed the table, In my opinion.

I did not know that the my friends tuner had been modified.

I didn't realize till another friend bought a 108 and it didn't sound any where near as good as my friends 109 so
I asked him why, and my (jerk)friend just told me about the
teflon caps he had installed. Dooooooow

The modified tuner is about 30-40% better! than the stock
tuner.
It was more extended and way more transparent!

By the way, teflon caps are expensive $40 to $200 ea., depending on values but if you have a vacuum tube preamp or tube power amp, you can upgrade your
audio equipment to a new level without selling your pieces.

It will transform your unit with extension especially top end, and with transparency that will amaze.

Just make sure you substitute the coupling cap with same value (uf) and voltage rating.

Enjoy.
jimpcn
Hi Wendel;

I don't own these tuners, nor have I ever said I own these turners, they are my friends, and although it may be great, I still prefer to use vynal because I can play what I want when I want.

I have an inexpense unit that does the job of back ground music when I'm multi-tasking or when there is a live concert being broadcasted. I simply can't afford to keep up with the "jones".

but this thread is about the ultimate source quality and I shamedly admit, it might be the FM tuner.
Hi Jimpcn,
The fm stereo broadcast system is limited to 15khz the engineers chose when they designed it. The frequency's above 15khz aren't there to listen to.There may be noise above the 15khz in a lot of records that you hear on vinyl that wouldn't be there on the fm broadcasts you listen to.There are a lot of bad pressings.In the 60's to 80's I've exchanged many records do to bad pressings. I think a lot of times they ran batches of records off bad worn out dies,whether they knew it or not who knows.They had distortion and noise,even after breaking them in.Being records are capable of over 30khz,who knows whats there.A record has to be made as good as possible.So I'm guessing that blocked out high frequency noise above the 15khz may be why the tuner sounds better over vinyl to a lot of people.I don't have any stations in my area that plays the same music that I have to be able to compare.But once in a while,our college station plays some music I enjoy.I tried that digital tuner that Sam Tellig liked a lot(on about 20 different stations)and it was no match for my cd's,fm analog,or vinyl.If they play vinyl over the air and it sounds better,that's my only guess is noise or something else bad going on over 15 khz.
Hmm
These negative comment's here you people have no clue how good FM broadcast can be.
A good FM station is vastly differant then your in home Lp and cd playback.

Likely you have never heard a good live broadcast through a great tuner connected to a proper antenna.

Regarding MD,and sorry to say none of the MD line is such a stand out example of what a great tuner is, I borrowed a few brands to check out over the years including the MD 108.

Two examples of what a great tuner is, my long standing Accuphase T-100 aligned and modded and a recent purchase of a Sansui TU-X1.

Like the best turntables of the past both of these tuners were designed back in the Golden Days of truly outstanding analogue playback components.
About 4 months ago I purchased a Kenwood KT-8300 tuner. I listen to KUNV in Las Vegas for the most part. I'm not saying the KT-8300 is the be all end all of tuners out there, but I'm very satisfied with what I'm hearing and as a result my CD play time has dwindled to the point that I'm considering selling my digital front end.
Here are interesting tuner info links.>>[http://www.fmtunerinfo.com/standings.html#41][http://www.fmtunerinfo.com/]