The best of the DACs


I've heard can not perform better than my CD player...most of them not nearly as well. Why would I want to open my wallet and patience to pursue digital downloads and have results not be better than what I already have. I don't mind storing the silver discs....and actually, LP's often sound better than CD's.
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Just curious what DACs you've tried? I think it'd be tough to get a DAC to sound close to a good vinyl rig for under 7K. Even with the right component selection, a lot of things can go wrong, adversely affecting sound quality, like setting up the computer to have adequate available resources, the player software, etc.
I have a rim drive VPI HRX that I think sounds better then any digital I have tried or heard. I sold an Electrocompaniet EMC 1UP CD player last year because my laptop playback simply sounded better and is more convenient. My laptop has a solid state 520 GB drive with 16 GB ram and Pentium i7 chip. I use JRIVER as the gui and JPLAY for playback. My DAC is PS Audio MK2 Perfectwave dac. I tried & owned other dacs but for me that sounded best in my system.It is beyond me why a CD copied & played back through a computer sounds better then through a CD player but it does. I will never own another CD player.
Oh, geeze. At the risk of over-simplifying, you of course use a DAC already. It’s right there in your CD player. The issue really comes down to what kind of transport you want to read the digital bits off of whatever medium you’re reading, and how that digital bitstream then gets sent off to your DAC. Whether you have the transport and DAC stages in the same box (i.e., in a CD player) or in separate boxes, you’ve gotta get this stuff done.

Now, I guess the question then becomes – is there something inherently better about bouncing a laser off of a spinning CD verses reading the same digital information off of either a traditional (i.e., spinning) or solid state (i.e,. no moving parts) hard drive. No, there really isn’t. We can just stipulate that all manner of factors (isolation, inertness, power, etc) can effect this process – sure – and that execution matters, but one isn’t inherently better than the other. Put differently, both do just a fine job of disinterring digital data from a storage medium. (One could argue that SDD is in fact inherently more robust and inert, and thus better, but let’s not for now.)

Right, then you’ve gotta send your digital bit stream to the DAC. In a CD player, it doesn’t have that far to go, and it happens in the black box and that’s that. You can do the same thing in a computer, in the same box, on the sound card – they all have one. Or, because the on-board DAC in most computers is a crappy afterthought, you can bypass it and go direct digital to an off-board DAC. In stark contrast to whatever happens in your CD player – you have near infinite control over how this gets done (OK, exaggeration, but you get the point). This gives you a degree of control over optimizing your sound that you will never, ever get from a CD player. If you want that, it’s good to have. If you don’t want it, then who cares.

But, big-picture-wise, a computer-a-la-transport can very definitely sound as good or better than any given integrated CD player. Similarly, you can likely find a CD player that will sound as good or better than any given computer/DAC set-up. So – and I really mean this – sound quality should not be a factor in making this decision. Or, it doesn’t need to be, at any rate. Not any more.

There are a whole bunch of other factors, however. Computer audio is not plug and play. It requires that you learn quite a bit to maximize, that you be comfortable learning it, and that you WANT to learn about it. If you’re not interested, or frustrated, or just against playing with computers and solving issues as they come up – because they will – don’t waste your time. It will likely bring you little joy. A plug and play CD player is just that, simple, easy and bullet-proof (figuratively, that is). What a computer-based system does give you, on the other hand, is vastly increased flexibility, customizability, and convenience (once you’ve crossed the barrier to entry and gotten up to speed, definitely not before). Having all your music instantly available at your fingertips, having access to orders-of-magnitude higher resolution material than you get from Redbook CD, and further being able to stream any music on earth instantly off of the internet, these things can fundamentally change your relationship to music. And that’s a really big thing.

Don’t get me wrong, if you want to spin disks to make music, I get it. The ritual, the mechanics, they matter a lot. Being deliberate and physically involved in the process unquestionably can enhance the experience. It forces you to live more fully in the moment, pay more attention. It is way more simple. And if you’re into vinyl, there’s no substitute. Revel in it. But if you’re actually considering different digital transports, don’t let sound quality be your deciding factor. Sure, there are plenty of perfectly legitimate reasons not to bother with introducing computers into the process, but sound quality really isn’t one of them. For me, the benefits so dwarf the costs that I wouldn’t even consider going back to CDs (I still buy them, but they get ripped, backed up, and then never thought of again). But that’s personal, and I’m into that stuff. Anyway, I’ve rambled on for too long. I suspect your instincts regarding which you would prefer to live with are unquestionably right, but one can get the sound they want either way.