Help with XLR ICs.


Ok gang. So here’s my situation. I’m looking to upgrade my XLR ICs. I’ve been using Straightwire Crescendo XLR ICs for many years now. I originally bought them for my first system I put together about 10 years ago. Since then I have totally upgraded my whole system including PCs which are 4 Audioquest Dragons (2) HC and (2) source. I really did want to go with Audioquest Dragons for my XLR ICs. But the prices for them brand new is to high for me. 2 m xlr are 18k and 1 m are 12k. I was looking for used for a few months now but never ever seen any that were ever for sale used. I also am using Straightwire Crescendo speaker cables which are quad wired. That’s 2 pairs for ea speaker going into ea mono amp. So u can imagine what the AQ Dragon quad wired speaker cables would cost.100k ++ That being said I will be keeping for now my Straightwire Crescendo speaker cables. So back to my original question post. What high end XLR ics would be a lot better than my Straightwire Crescendo XLRs. Budget is about 4k a pair. And will need 2 pairs. 2 m and 1 m. . I really did like the Straightwire Crescendos ICs and speaker cables for their powerful bass as they are also known for. So that being said I would like high end ICs that are known also for extremely good bass. My system consists of ARC Ref 750s mono blocks. ARC Ref 6Se pre. ARC ref 9 CDP. And a McIntosh MQ 112 EQ.  

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does that translate to: if the equipment is truly balanced, then the XLR interconnects do not make a difference, but if the equipment isn't balanced but instead just has XLR but is really single-ended, then the XLR cables matter similarly to single-ended cables?

@jji666 No, a lot of gear out there really is balanced. But that isn't the same as saying it supports the standard. To support the standard, AFAIK the source driving the cable ignores ground. So a phono cartridge, which is floating, is a good example as is a dynamic microphone.

When it was done with tube equipment in the old days a line transformer was used. To do it solid state you have to have a circuit that is OK not referencing ground (these days there are chips  like this one for that) or you use a transformer. There is a third technique using a patented circuit that involves a Circlotron output.

So most balanced gear for home stereo use simply references ground, IOW there are two single-ended outputs, one out of phase with the other. This does not support the balanced line standard, so the cables will affect the 'sound' and different cables will sound different. I think this is really bad because first, the balanced line system is supposed to get rid of this problem and second because if you think about it, none of the cables you ever choose would really be 'right'- we all know that next year the people that made the 'best' in a shoot out would have a better cable (likely for more money) and if they don't someone else will; hence all the answers to this thread with different suggestions!

When your gear supports the standard there's none of that- its all plug and play with no worries and the best sound of the cable possible.

@atmasphere Thanks for clarifying that equipment can be balanced and still not support the standard, I think that this clears up a lot of confusion.

I have been trialing some XLR cables recently, in this case a friend loaned me some Wireworlds and Analysis Plus cables. A very distinct difference in sound between these cables, you can't miss it. I guess my equipment (Schiit->Benchmark->Coda) does not follow the standard.

 

@zlone You might try a pair of Mogami Neglex XLR cables just for fun. They are not expensive and they are very good.

@atmasphere You might try a pair of Mogami Neglex XLR cables just for fun. They are not expensive and they are very good.

Thanks, I will take a look!

I’d definitely recommend Mogami Platinum Studio XLR cables. Platinum Studio is made with a Mogami w3402 bulk cable, a customized version based on the W3173. It is assembled in Torrance, CA. The XLR plugs are from G & H. Been using one between my CDP and DAC for a few weeks and love the sound. Going to order two more pieces for one of my pre/amp combos.

I don’t work for them (or anyone else for that matter).