SUT experience

Dear @billstevenson  : " Who cares?  All that matters in the end is the music. "

Well that depends of your MUSIC/sound priorities. I think that putting al kind of distortions in any roomsystem at minimum gives you not only MUSIC but MUSIC that is closer to the recording and closer to the live MUSIC. This is my target, but this is me-

I respect your point but I can't agree with. That's why I don't own the VIV tonearm or Dava cartridge, I just can't " tolerate " to listen something that I know by facts measured facts that's wrong even if those generated distortions do that are wrong could be " nice " distortions. My mind works by common sense but as I said this is me.

R.

Common Sense is very very egocentric and formed from environmental influences.

Why would a individual having never met traffic in any volume, have the common sense of an urban dwelling individual and use the left and right / right and Left road check rule. 

How many in an urban environment have relied on the senses and been clipped or nearly clipped by a electric vehicle, to quickly learn the right and left road check is invaluable.

There are only a few references to common sense that are collective in use as the  above, which are usually in place as a result of being assimilated into the collective mind set.

Mostly what one deems to be common sense is easily challenged for its being disagreeable, as some form of induction, familiarisation or training is required to create collective thought or common sense.

Much of my time can be spent carrying out inductions, familiarisation and training to generate a common sense.

The astounding thing in it all, is how many alternatives ideas are in the minds of others to achieve the common goal. 

I have a indelible memory of watching on TV, a UK reporter attempting to get through a Border Crossing in the Middle East, whilst giving the narrative, the camera panned away from the reporter and followed a Pick Up Truck having passed through the Border Crossing. The captured footage was off the Load on the trucks rear bed, which was two fully grown Camels on a 6' x 5' truck bed, with no guardrails or the like in use, just the head halters tied to the bed. To the transporter a very good idea, surely common sense, Truck + Camel = Camel Transportation. Ro the average viewer witnessing this, there were numerous known options, that would be considered to be much improved.  

In relation to HiFi and musical encounters of replayed recordings of music, there is no common goal, apart from the intention for selecting audio equipment to use for producing sound from a source containing recorded data. Where one chooses to get on or off the bus, is very very individual and certainly not common. 

The link is a modern interpretation of 'Common Sense', created by individuals much more trained than myself to do the presentation.

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My system is likely very different sounding because I use a PA style horn sub, as well as horn speakers. It sounds a lot like a small venue. When I play a record, it feels and sounds like the house of blues. My sweeps in REQ wizard are not flat. Not even close. My room treatments helped tremendously but I did not want to kill the sound. I like the live sound. It does not sound like a studio. It is not sterile. I can close my eyes and feel like I’m in the audience somewhere. This is my preferred sound. I think if I wanted 100% accuracy, I would try headphones. 

Raul,

We are discussing our preferred approach to the playing of the music here.  We should be adults and agree that if the elimination of as much distortion as possible were the goal (here let us ignore your frequent protests to the contrary) we would abandon the LP, the RIAA curve and all that goes with them and pursue a digital path such as DSD.  No, we do not do that, so right away we are accepting that there will be distortions.  Okay, let up proceed.  You take one approach which for the sake of this discussion we will call a purist approach.  The goal is the straightest path, with the least deviation from the RIAA curve, the flattest frequency response, the lowest distortion and do forth.  Yes or no?  Correct me if I am wrong.  Of course I can do this too.  I can haul out the two box P1 and all that.  On your recommendation last year I bought a Stellar.  But I also have and prefer, strongly in fact, my new C-J ACT Phono, sometimes with and sometimes without an SUT.  And I accept that there might be more distortion.  Maybe.  I am not sure.  I like the way it sounds.  It sounds like my piano.  Really.  Nothing else sounds like my piano.  It is palpable.  I can feel it as well as hear it and the piano is in the same room.  Yamaha C7.

Not too many weeks past I was treated to a afternoon of being demo'd a system being driven by a few different Amp's (SS and Valve, along with a few CD Sources and DAC's (SS and Valve.

The event was based around helping the system owner learn if their Klipsch Jubilees were able to find better synergy from new devices in use.

When the exchanged CD > Valve DAC was added, along with a new design Korg B1 > 300b Valve Power Amp, the Jubilees become much much larger than the listening space, never have I heard such voluminous sound from a speaker outside of a Concert Venue.

There is something very attractive about the being there moment, but an honest evaluation will remind one that the experience has been with shortcomings, where was the visceral bass notes reminding one of their Celiac Plexus being in the body, and I was able to speak straight after, where usually the voice is lost for a few days.  .

As I have stated in the past, sound being produced from a acoustic instrument 'is not' directional, it is a omnidirectional sound. The listener present, experiencing the  the sound, will hear differing variants of the sound being produced as a result of reflections within the room changing the sound at the point it is heard. Not all in the audience will experience the same sounds.  

How can being in a venue with acoustic music being produced become a faithful reproduction when a recording of the event, or something very similar as a production is heard as a directional sound presented through a speaker.