Young audiophile metal head looking to level up speaker choice


Hello Audiogon,

I'm a pretty new to the world of audio and looking to make a signifiant upgrade from my first self purchased speaker, the Q Acoustics 3030i.  I was encouraged by an audiophile friend to join Audiogon and post a question regarding what speaker would be best.

I decided to pick up a much nicer amplifier last year, upgrading from a Cambridge AXR85 to a Rogue Sphinx V3. This 2024 I am wanting to make a similar upgrade to my speakers.  I wanted a more dynamic amplifier and found the Cambridge to smooth when combined with my Q Acoustics.

I have my own listening room but it's rather small 11ft x13ft.  I listen to mostly heavy metal/rock music at 70-85 decibels.   I have looked at been cross shopping the Buchart S400 mkII, Dynaudio Evoke 20, Zu DWX, Arendale 1723 - but have also heard good things about vintage Usher speakers..

Thanks for your consideration and advice here.

cheers

killingforcompany

@audphile1 you'd be surprised at how well recorded and pressed metal bands are. I highly encourage you to pick a few LP's up. I'd always heard that saying and I have a ton of metal and punk records that sound fantastic and are recorded, mastered and pressed very well. 

Add JBL and Polk (both were very popular with my Hard Rock friends in the 70's and 80's) to your list to audition. JBL is reviving some of their classic models, with upgrades, from the 70's, and if they sound like I remember.....a can't miss. You might want to audition the Monitor line, both tower and "book shelf" from England. My main system is built around vintage KRIX Euphonix (I auditioned with Tommy Bolin's Wild Dogs) floor standing tower speakers, but in a MUCH larger space than your room. My upstairs systems are in a similar sized room to yours, with a dedicated mono and dedicated stereo. One uses a new to me, pair of Totem Arros (rear port and not thumping bass), that is the mono, mostly jazz and classical. I've been aware of the Totems for a number of years, and the stars (and bank balance) finally aligned. The 2 channel system, mostly rock, big band, jazz,experimental, avant-garde, and fusion uses a pair of stand mounted ELAC Debut 2.0 (front ported, and a nice bass delivery for their size, but they are in a market segment that has exploded with excellent new speakers--- check out A British Audiophile on you tube, similar listening room, and he does a bunch of physically smaller high quality speaker reviews, and unlike some, he reviews instead of shills). BTW I listen to CD, tape and vinyl play back, and that's what I use to audition.

Auditioning is the only real indicator.... please yourself first!

I think that a floor standing full range speaker will be better with 7in woofer at least for good bass. Maybe take the rogue to a good dealer with a proper listening room and see a few options. You will most likely hear a speaker that really sings to you. The advice from a good audiophile shop can often be priceless and very helpful. 

 

that's true j-wall ! I just picked up the Fear Factory (soul of a new machine 3LP) and its a very fine sounding record. Run Out Groove

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If you can, try listening to a pair of vintage, "Polk Audio", (SDA or SRS-type) Polk speakers.

 While the SDA-SRS line of their speakers were primarily designed for hard-rock and metal, they are good for all types of music.

If you are near me, you could come listen to both the SDA-1c and also the SDA-2b models. Just make sure that wherever you find (SDA,SRS) systems, that they have the "Interconnect" cables hooked up, "Without that factory interconnect they sound horrible"! It was part of Polk Audio's proprietary tech. that they invented.

By the way, when Polk split up years ago one part of the company became "Golden Ear".

These speakers also worked well when you had limited space. And there was a need to place them close to the walls behind them! "Instead of (4+) feet in front of the wall"!

Also, especially for metal music. To get the most out of your system you will need to have a good subwoofer system. And this is key! The best I have found, "Especially when looking for (Bang for Buck). I use the "Descent" subwoofers from "Martin Logan". With (3) of "Martin Logans" - ten-inch aluminum subwoofers, in a "Sealed, triangular" configuration and a max output (3,000Wpc) of class D power in the built-in amp! (The amps RMS power "I believe", was 1800 watts).  And it also has excellent manual controls for the installed "room correction"! One of these sub's is more than enough!

And it is a very, very accurate sub! As it is also a "Laser- Accelerometer/Mirror" - corrected, servo-controlled subwoofer system! This type of correction works off of the "actual" measurements, taken in real-time. "NOT" just a feedback loop running a given "algorithm". Which is what most companies run now (Like REL & Rythmic), because of the high cost of the parts used,

 Having a sub like this takes the load off of your primary amplification which will help it too not be "over-driven". When your amp is reproducing the transient, "hi's and lows" so prevalent in metal recordings. It's all in the details!

The MSRP on the subs was ($4800) but you can find them for about ($600) if you are patient! The Polk (SDA) speakers I mentioned? You can find "Usually" for about ($1000) a pair.

And if you find that you don't like them? Just sell them!

As for amplifiers, if you even run across a "Nakamichi Pa-7" amp? You might want to give one of those a shot! (Nelson Pass) designed these amplifiers with the "Stasis" technology that he invented!

Regardless, Good Luck!