Help settle a streaming argument!


This is a SQ argument and is as follows-  I argue if you connect your streamer to an outboard DAC the streamer does not matter it’s just serving the music to the outboard DAC to do the work.  Therefore, buy a basic streamer.  The other is that you need to buy a top quality streamer and DAC to get great SQ. 
 

I liken it to cd players or the more pretentious cd transport argument- if the intent is to connect to outboard DAC the cd player doesn’t matter the outboard DAC DOES!
 

features and functionality aside!  Thoughts…..

polkalover

Not true a cheap streamer creates a lot of noise ,it has a cheap $10 wall wart powersupply .  Plus junk for parts ,rule of thumb 25% at most goes into the cost including packaging ,   R&D over head and markup. Meaning a $1k streamer less then $225 that’s complete , pure rubbish .

a good LPS powersupply like $750 linear tube audio ,is a great buy  I have one on my Motorola 8702 modem- router , and makes a solid difference in not only wifi forthe tv  but much lower noise ,going to my SW8 Hub witha ocxo oven controlled clock, Talema LPS and low noise regulators, for$600 a excellent buy ,and added a good Hifi tuning fuse ,and Pangea sig mk2 awg14 power cord , all make it even betterstill.

Those of us who have actually done the experiment, switching from either a computer or low quality streamer to a high quality streamer, have heard an unmistakable improvement in sound quality. Even if we don't have the technical know-how to explain it. However, other, smarter people have said it boils down to jitter. Even the best DACs don't eliminate 100% of jitter. Feeding them a signal with less jitter helps DACs reduce jitter more than they could on their own. The very reputable hi-fi company Antipodes used to have a lengthy, very clearly written primer on the subject posted on their site. A cursory check indicates it's no longer there. But they do have a discussion forum that might cover the topic. 

Those of us who have actually done the experiment, switching from either a computer or low quality streamer to a high quality streamer, have heard an unmistakable improvement in sound quality. Even if we don't have the technical know-how to explain it. 

Bingo!

For the rest ... ignorance is bliss

 

Which clock is being used, the one in the DAC or the streamer? And the quality matters. On USB input the DAC’s clock is used. On SPDIF or AES the streamer (or CD transport) clock is used. This alone can make a big difference in the sound between streamers. And subsequently how they are hooked up. So think about the consequence of this. A ‘lesser’ DAC might sound much better with a quality streamer/clock hooked up to it via SPDIF than the same DAC hooked up via USB to a laptop. Another way to look at it, if two streamers are compared against each other using the same DAC hooked up via USB, any differences between the two streamers will be less apparent because they are both using the same clock in the DAC. See the link below as an example of one explanation on this… I’m not an expert on the why’s and where’s but have heard the differences in my system.


Clocking matters