any current integrated amps in market have great dacs?


I know built in dacs have historically have been a bit of an afterthought, currently looking at the Rotel Michi X3 series 2 as it has a nice chip set

any other integrated amps around the same price point  with a good dac built in?

 

 

 

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Has anyone tried the Aavik U-180, U-280, or U-580.
Outstanding gear, specially the latest.
Neverthless i opted to buy the respective separates: Aavik I-580 and Aavik D-580.
Amazing human, organic, natural and lifelike sound.

The Mola Mola Kula integrated amp, the Kula, has the famous Tambaqui DAC built into it.  As an option you can get the Kula integrated with or without a DAC and a phono stage.  The optional DAC circuit inside the integrated amp is the same as the Mola Mola Tambaqui DAC.  The Tambaqui has been praised by numerous reviewers as one of the finest DACs available at any price.  So, if you want an integrated amp with a world class DAC the Mola Mola Kula is it. 

The new Peachtree Carina is excellent for the $$ and they have a trade up program...If you can find a used Aavik U-150 for under 10K , Buy it.....best dac and MC phono stage Steve Huff ever heard in an integrated.....I own one 20K new...it's better than their new gear DAC and phono stage wise in MHO .

Anybody have the chance to compare McIntosh’s DAC1 to its DAC2? The MA-5300 integrated ships only with the earlier model & requires a $1000 dealer-only upgrade to replace it with the DAC2.

That’s frustrating. I see no reason why this upgrade couldn’t be done at the factory when the unit is ordered.  Visiting the Mac dealer closest to me would require getting on a plane; and two-way shipping of even the relatively light MA-5300 would run $800-1000. You can buy a pretty nifty little late model HiFi Rose DAC/streamer that offers a much better interface for that kind of money.

It baffles me why the company won't allow users to buy its mid-priced integrateds with the better DAC pre-installed, especially since many live in states that don’t have dealerships. But my threshold question is simpler: Is the difference between the two DACs significant enough to justify a nearly $2000 upgrade?

 

@tiagocarneiro I have the Aavik U-280. By far one of the best integrated amps I’ve owned. The built-in dac is phenomenal. I compared it to the Denafrips Terminator 2 dac which I owned when I was auditioning the Aavik. No comparison, the Aavik dac was substantially better than the Denafrips. I also compared it to T+A Dac200 and it was equally good. In fact, the Aavik had better bass control than the T+A.

I also auditioned the U-150, and preferred the U-280. Of course, the 150 has a world class phono but other than that I preferred the 280 in my system. I bet the 580 is even better.