Two questions to make you mad.


#1 Why is it that the worlds most sophisticated and accurate machine the (ASML) TWINSCAN NXE:3600D doesn’t use special AC or signal cables to make 3nm semiconductors. Audiophiles need special cables for accuracy?

#2 Why is it that you can always tell when a piano is playing live, or even an electric guitar is playing live 2 houses away directly into an amp through walls and windows?

In the 1960s Electro Voice announced that their speakers could reproduce exactly accurate sounds, many believed them.

We are fooling ourselves, our hobby is full of lies and we can’t even face facts.

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The ASML machine is producing chips, not music. End of story. People don't sit around listening to it print do they? A $62M rocket stage is "accurate enough" in what it does using "regular" cables, but nope, it isn't creating music either. 

@mahgister 

I do understand what you are saying, I’m definitely not a materialist I’m a Christian that thinks God has designed logic into all of his creation from the galaxies to the orbits of atoms. I disagree about your mystical view of math and logic in general. 
once in college someone asked our math professor what his doctoral thesis was on, he said you wouldn’t understand. We were taken back here we were big shots taking to highest calculus class the university offered many students pressed on and got our professor to explain so he put one of his thesis problems on the board we didn’t even know that language sure it kinda looked like math but no one had a clue, he said I told you so. 
 

Seems to me you are using the gaps in knowledge to justify the parts we don’t understand prime numbers are not magical in fact they are the very opposite of magic they are logic. If you listen to music that moves your emotions there is an explanation it may be very personal but it’s not magic. To be blunt you seem like a mathophile that delights in linking things like the logic of math and physics to other categories like emotions by way of popular jargon with slightly mystical bridges. 

Acoustics and fluid dynamics are really hard subjects there is no room for anything but hardcore logic. Back in college I took some quantum math from a professor that was a bit famous in the field I thought it would be very interesting it wasn’t it was like statistics not physics no fun at all.

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This is why audiophiles are so subject to snake oil and 700$ fuses 80k$ speaker cables they are smart and choose to live between the technical and emotional boundaries of knowledge. Some of the more experienced people on this forum just say -enjoy the music- and don’t bother.

I think it’s interesting that no one has tackled the reason why the 300M$ ASML machine that demands nearly perfect accuracy uses info cables that are not as expensive as most used in our audio systems. Everyone knows that it is incorrect to compare cables carrying higher frequency info to cables using audio frequencies, but still AC is relatively all the same and that nagging fact that very expensive test equipment don’t use audiophile AC cables to test audio equipment. 

First i am not an audiophile who buy the magic of costly tweaks...

All my tweaks were homemade at low cost...

And my system /room was created with my homemade acoustic devices with basic acoustic...My system total cost is 700 bucks and optimized is the best for the price...

 

If you studied logic you must already know that there is no logic explaining the prime distribution... Prime distribution is a symbolic object not explained by logic at all ...

it is not my opinion here but the opinion of the greatest mathemathicians ...

I will give you an example how mathematician are puzzled by the MAGIC of primes : The primes’ preferences about the final digits of the primes ..

Read this:

https://www.quantamagazine.org/mathematicians-discover-prime-conspiracy-20160313/

I could have give more complex exemple but they are not simple at all ...

The Indian scientist i just cited above use the prime distribution matrix  as an invariant to analyse what we may call the universal memory cell ...he created the first non-Turing machine as a geometrical model of the brain based on the prime numbers dynamics...

Prime are like a primordial musical phenomenon observed by human when a number system is designed but primes are independant from any bases system choices ...  Primes  are not based on human convention as logic are based on discourse and speech rhetoric... multivalued logic dont change this fact...

I cannot go further in an audio thread... But i gave some links above...

Magic is everyday miracles... mathematic is God music ask Grothendieck who wrote a book i read called the "key of dreams" or ask Ramanujan... And Ask Alain Connes...

we don’t understand prime numbers are not magical in fact they are the very opposite of magic they are logic.