Will Origin Live Conqueror tonearm fit my Rega RP10's skeletal plinth?


I'm considering replacing the RB-2000 tonearm on my Rega RP10 (circa 2014 - 2016) with an Origin Live (OL) model, probably the Conqueror MK4, and all indications are the hole diameter for the 3-point mount should be identical, but I am concerned that my RP10's skeletal plinth may be too small near the base of the tonearm for the OL's oval or triangular "plate" or "frame" that appears in photos above and around the mount base (where the Rega arm has its bias force adjuster.)  If anyone on Audiogon has the Conqueror tonearm, could you take measurements of that part and respond?  Additionally, if you have the Rega RP10 table and have replaced the RB-2000 with an Origin Live arm, could you provide your experiences?  I'd appreciate it!  Mounting should not be a problem if the base is small enough to fit the plinth. The weight differences between the Rega and OL arms are within a pound or so and I expect the plinth can handle that. 

Thanks!

 

lgo-jerry

Thanks, Pindac, I appreciate the advice. BTW, I’ve been using a Solid Steel Series 5 rack, the older square tube with round legs model for years, entirely filled with microbearings, and I have used several platter mats on the Rega’s Ceramic platter, settling on a Music Hall cork mat, although primarily because of the grip it has on LPs; I prefer not to use a record clamp unless it is actually necessary. I don't believe that I've heard any mat deliver better sound than the bare Rega platter, which seems to be quiet. I’m not a novice to HiFi by any means, but I recognize that there will always be more to learn and experience (especially on a budget), and a lot of knowledge can be gained by learning from the experiences of others, so I ask, and I appreciate the responses that I receive. I've never tried a new tonearm on this table and the table has been around for quite a while now. My thought is someone must have already tried this.   

Dear @lgo-jerry  : M.Fremer reviewed the RP-10 that in it's system was surrounded by room/system that you not even in your dreams can imagine its quality high level performance and not only that but he compared against not only the SAT with the SAT 50K tonearm ( not a Kuzma blend/unipivots. ) and against the Continnum TT and Cobra 25K+ tonearm using the Ortofon Anna and Lyra Atlas where these cartridges alone are more expensive that your room/system.

Stereophile gave no ranks/grade /class because not only them but no other reviewers or audiophiles buy RB 3000 as an stand alone unit because audiophiles just do not know that the 3000 outperforms Kuzama OL and at least at the same level than the top SME. I know because I owned the 900/1000 and SME tonearms and the 3000 is the R.Gandy pinnacle on tonearm but your not to high level knowledge levels about are showing through your posts.

 

Fremer was not only the one that reviewed the RP10 with 2000/3000 ( yes REGA sold as apackage on its top range products. So what?. )

 

This one with a reviewer with way better system than yours as the Simsaudio phono stage that outperforms the JC3 that's for its price is good but the Reviewer owns Vandersteen  5-A  speakers ( that I lstened several times. ) tha's something to hear and by coincidence Lyra Atlas appears here too:

 

Rega RP10 Turntable (tonepublications.com)

 

Rega RP10 Turntable and Apheta Moving-Coil Cartridge - The Absolute Sound

 

Rega Planar 10 Turntable Review - The Absolute Sound

 

At the end I really don't care if you coose those inferior arms as OL or K instead the 3000 and I don't care because it's not me who will live with but you.

The audio world and especiality in analog each day is a learning day if we are willing to learn.

 

R.

Good Pindac, one learns from research and research includes asking about the experiences of others. While I do appreciate your advice in different areas of HiFi, you haven't indicated that you've actually owned an RP10 or P10 or any Rega skeletal plinth table, and you haven't changed out the Rega tone arm for a different brand of tonearm on a Rega skeletal plinth table, have you? Have you tried to fit an Origin Live Conqueror model tone arm to a Rega skeletal plinth table? If so, you haven't mentioned it or I've missed it in your posts, so it seems that you haven't the experience with the tone arm change that I'm hoping to learn about. 

Yes, everyone says the combination of Rega Table and arm are very good. I think they are because I've been using an RP10 for about 9 years, and I've owned a number of less expensive tables since the 1960's. As we know, Stereophile, and other magazines as well, annually list what they've considered the best of particular products they've reviewed. They've apparently not reviewed the RB-2000 or RB-3000 as REPLACEMENT tone arms, or I haven't seen any such review or comparison to other branded tone arms, and I have indeed looked for such reviews. 

I've read numerous reviews of the table and arm as a Rega Package. Never have I read a review where the tone arm was reviewed without the table and was compared to other branded tone arms. Never have I read a magazine review or anyone's personal experience in using the Rega skeletal plinth with another manufacturer's tone arm mounted, and that is what I am most interested in learning about.  It would seem that with thousands of Rega skeletal plinth tables having been sold, some owners would have replaced the tone arm with a different brand.

Everyone's experiences have value, and I have no doubt that your experience would be valuable to many new audiophiles or HiFi enthusiasts, but there are many tinkerers out there that cannot resist the opportunity to try something new, and it is their experience that I hope to learn from. 

lgo-jerry

Has OL been able to offer insight on your project?

I would think they could at least offer measurements/dimension of minimum area required to make it happen?

By looking at pics of the tonearm, it looks like clearance(height of plinth) is needed for the threaded collar used for VTA among other things?

Hi Tablejockey, I’m waiting on response from OL. However, looking closely at my table, I don’t think the OL arm is going to fit, unless the frame that holds the arm tube rest is smaller than it looks in photos, or is up high enough to clear the platter. The RP10 plinth is narrow and only a couple of inches from the platter. Could be some contact when the arm is moved to playing position, and even more so by mid LP. Will update here when I have OL’s response.