dac and streamer or seperates


Want to spend about 5k

System right now is a Krell S-300  love it!

B&W 804's  love them too

Well treated medium sized room.

but I'm using the built in streamer and dac.  

I would like to take my streaming to the next level.

At 5k would you go separate DAC and Separate Streamer or all in one?

128x128asmithkash

I guess it all broils down to the convenience factor. If you want less boxes, go for the separates. Of course the advantage to separates is that you can upgrade them individually. I wanted less boxes, but didn’t want any compromise in sound quality, so I acquired a very high quality DAC with an extremely high quality built-in streamer. I agree with the other Audiophile who stated......"the magic is in the DAC." Streamers are a dime a dozen. If have an extremely high quality built-in streamer in your DAC, trust me, you’ll forget all about the streaming part of the equation and you’ll just be concentrating and focusing on the music. It’s all about the DAC, but make sure it’s built-in streamer is of high quality and you’ll be just fine with an all-in-one.

Alright guys, first of all, thank you everyone on your great advice.  I really appreciate it!  Jbuhl made a really good point.  I really don't know how good the DAC is in the Krell.  It might be 5k to get better.

So I'm gonna borrow a rose streamer.  Plug it in tonight and get back to you guys.  If the streamer does better than the internal streamer then I will hunt for a great DAC.  Maybe holo may?

I'll report back!

Earthbound

I'm not sure.  I love vinyl, do tube DAC's sound more liquid?  Maybe with that bad ass amp a little tube magic would be nice?

A good one yes. Many people like to balance solid state with tube preamp or dac. Again, it depends on the sound you’re looking for from your system. I’m biased, I have a tube amp and preamp. I recently changed to an r2r dac, no more tube dac and really like the balance of detail, clarity with just the right amount of smoothness. I don’t like overly romantic sounding gear or highly precise, technical gear. Keep in mind that I’m all digital, no vinyl. I need to tame the digital a bit. If you listen to mostly vinyl, you already know you like that smooth, easy sound. Try as much gear as possible so you hear different parts of the romantic to analytical spectrum as you can. I think the right dac can make the system. Shop wisely. 

OP, “ …I love vinyl, do tube DAC’s sound more liquid?”

 

In general yes. In my system the vinyl and digital ends sound the same (I carefully chose equipment to do that). Both detailed, but very natural and musical sounding.

Also, at my investment level I have invested about the same in each leg. Typically at much lower levels of investment and higher levels you must put a bit more into digital leg to have it perform at the same level as the analog end. Also, both my Phonostage and DAC are tubed.