Can a system sound too Holographic?


Hi friends :)

So I got a question for those interested. For me, having a 2 channel system with a Holographic soundstage is very desirable.

I bring this up because I had lent some Centerstage 2 footers ( isolation devices) to a friend to try out. To make a long story short, he likes what they are doing under his Lumin T3, however he mentioned that it might be "Too Holographic". I don't know about you guys and gals, but that wouldn't really be a problem for me. Your thoughts or experiences please. Anyone experience a soundstage that was too Holographic?

aniwolfe

I’ve always thought there was a natural tension between sound stage and the bloom of the individual instruments. If they are narrowly or tightly placed in the soundstage but not allowed to expand within their positions - too holographic only because there’s not enough bloom. Ideally you would have as much as both as possible, without detriment to the other category. 

The answer depends upon your point of comparison.  If your objective is accurate reproduction of recorded music, regardless of whether that is a close miked studio recording or a single miked live venue recording, the the answer is no. If your point of comparison is the ”absolute sound” of sitting in a live performance, and your goal is every recording must sound absolute, then the answer is yes.   The former is the realistic point of comparison.  The goal should be building the most resolving system within your budget and personal taste.   Whether that image is forward or further back, the space between images, a sharp or defuse leading edge, the air around images is equipment dependent and a personal decision.  For me, I want  the closest resolution and imaging to that the mike and recording equipment picked    I probably fall into the minority in this forum because I prefer a more forward image of high resolution and distinct leading edge, but also with air and decay.   Like good bourbon, to each our personal taste.  PS.  I prefer Four Roses upper end single barrel version.  Upfront.  Not sweet and relaxed.   

 

I had my room over-treated.

The result was "too holographic".  Lost the center image and the sound was all over the place.  So much so it made listening very weird.

Added back some reflective surfaces and the center image came back.  Soundstage and imaging were greatly improved.

@ross6860 

What you're describing is not holography, because it has nothing at all to do with the loss of a center image, or any other image for that matter, quite the opposite. You seemed to be experiencing phase issues which are an entirely different thing.

good point @roxy54

i remember several years back, i bought a preamp from a nice older gentleman locally, he insisted i come in to hear his system, of which he was very proud

i sat there, big focals driven by $15000 mcintosh hybrids, in a beautiful home in classic styling... then he played music, it was all phasey, sound coming from the sides, hole in the middle -- so looked at his cabling, sure enough one speaker had black on red and vice versa... i asked him to sit down, i swapped the connection... asked him how he liked the sound, his face turned red, he said, ’’whaddidja do? holy moly’ ... he was more than a little embarrassed, but happy and thankful ... lol