Do my ears deceive me??


     The money is in the bank, thinking of upgrading speakers, but everything I demo is no better or worse than what I have.   Willing to spend up to $6,000.      Upgraditis??   My main system is Mcintosh MX 134 that I bought in 2003, with a pair of Focal 836v's and a Parasound 5250  (250w/channel) amp I bought around 2012.   I either blew the tweeters or crossover on my 836's, so they are in for repair.   Since I've owned them for 10 years, I was considering new speakers.    The blades are way more than I would spend, but I also demoed the Kef R11s, Martin Logan xtf 200's, Mcintosh XR 100s, and B&W 703 S3.   

       None of them sounded better than what I'm hearing right now from my BP 2006s.    Would I really need to demo them in my room to make a fair comparison??  Or are speakers just not much better than they were 20 years ago?   I know I love detail, and tend to lean towards aluminum tweeters.  I pretty much only listen to classic rock and roll.   Of all I demoed, I really like the B&W 706s.   They sounded much brighter/cleaner than the others.   But they had the reciever set up so I couldn't adjust the treble/bass.  I love a V equalizer curve, and bump up the bass and treble a bit on my home/car systems.   Maybe I just have the good luck of prefering cheaper speakers.   

 

  

fenderu2

Did you guys buy the Razz without a demo?   They read like they would be something I love, but doubt I can demo in Minnesota.   

It is VERY hard to get old school horn system sound from commercial products that are not extremely expensive.  The better modern systems I've heard are custom-built using either vintage drivers or extremely expensive modern drivers.  

The Volti speakers are not in the same league, to me, as vintage-based systems.  But, they still sound very good for someone looking for the liveliness of horn type systems and value the great wood working of Volti.  There are no speakers, regardless of price that are strong on all aspects of performance; all have certain areas where they are not as strong as other aspect of performance.  To me, the Razz exhibits a bit of discontinuity between the bass and upper end sound.  Still a great performer for the money, but, I would listen for this to determine if it is a big deal. 

I went to the Capital Audiofest in Maryland to see & listen to both of them which I did multiple times over the weekend. Trip cost me about $1000 which I figured was just the cost of the speakers.o bought the pair at the show ( Red Gum w/ black grille cloths) & Greg Roberts gave over $1000 off the regular Rival price & included shipping! It all worked out well. I also was there to check out servers & Dacs  & wound up w/ the Innuos Zenith Mark III & the Border Patrol because I liked the sound in the Volti room so much! It was the best, most live sounding & enjoyable sound for me that I heard by far maybe besides the Goebel speakers at $80K! 

@fenderu2  I chose to take the 8 hour drive from NE Ohio down to Greg's shop. Not a terrible drive. My plan originally was the same as @jonwolfpell, except it was the one ion Florida. Sadly I didn't make it to the show. Plan B was going down to meet with Greg and have a good listen.... what an experience. Good long listen to the Razz, Rival's that @jonwolfpell has and a new prototype that is destined to be a flagship. I spent most of the evening, and some of the wee hours of the next day just jamming out with Greg. It was hands down my best audio experience of my life. Greg is a hell of a guy, his wife is a delight. Excellent Mexican food right across the street from Greg's home/shop. What little sleep I got, I actually did on a very comfy bed in his shop.  Greg and his wife made me feel like an old friend and a special guest. 

I say all of this because it may feel like sort of a stretch.. and I guess it sort of is. However If you choose to visit and listen, I'd bet you would come away feeling it was a special and worthwhile experience. IF you were closer to NE Ohio I'd be happy to host you. It would be awesome if someone in the Minn area would host. 

I do sort of agree with @larryi, at least that is until i started playing with the resistors supplied with my Razz to shape some of the roll off.  

I am already saving to trade up to @jonwolfpell 's Rivals. Exactly as he has them. Red Gum with the vintage look black cloth grills. Simply stunning. 

Great story! I almost went to Greg’s place during Covid time but my business requirements mounted & when the Capitol Show was announced x& I saw he was going to be there, I just waited. I have not played with the resistors at all , what did you find when doing so? If I hit the lotto, my first purchase will be the new Vittorias !