6DJ8 vs. 6922?


Alright tube aficionados, are 6DJ8 and 6922 tubes inter-changeable? I would ask Roger Modjeski or Tim de Paravicini, but they're both dead.

Anyone care to name their favorites of each tube, for use in phono and/or line stage pre-amps?

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from brent jesse audiotubes website:

6922:

This is one of two premium versions of the 6DJ8 tube. First of all, it is the same tube as the 6DJ8, and will work wherever a 6DJ8 is needed. It has premium features such as low noise, low microphonics, and usually a longer lifespan....Most are factory screened for tight internal matching and low noise.

here is the whole page... if you really want to understand this topic thoroughly, especially regarding ALL the variants, read ALL of what is written here  ...http://www.audiotubes.com/6dj8.htm

separately, these past detailed a-gon discussions may be helpful to those new to this party, or needing reminding of the knowledge base that many of us have benefitted from

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/tube-characterization-6dj8-6922-7308-cca-etc

https://forum.audiogon.com/discussions/tube-characterization-6dj8-6922-7308-part-ii

They are interchangeable and they are not, all depends on the circuit.

Strangely enough many ECC88 sound better with more air and musicality compared to their bigger cousins like E88CC and E188CC. Unfortunately they do not last as long but still that depends on the circuit.

Throughout the years i have liked many tubes, all different, even the ones made with same tooling (Dutch, American, UK, French, Indian). French tubes for instance have the same nice mids of the Dutch tubes but with nore sparkle at the top end.

Always preferred the early Siemens to Teles and good value were the early Teslas and Tungsrams. Another excellent and underated tube is Raytheon 7308.

Anyway my top favourites are 6n23p Voskhods 74-79 period, followed by (not in particular order) early Cca’s, Amperex Bugle Boys ECC88 straight D- getter, Philips Miniwatt SQ early 60’s or E188CC PQ same period, Telefunken PCC88, Mullard E88CC-01 (CV2493), RT or Dario E188CC, Siemens E188CC A frames, Amperex ECC88 orange small o getter, Amperex USA PQ whites.

Great period for all western tubes (with exceptions) 1962-1965.

Most of them are good for phono stages and line stages but please remember that unless they are rugged like the russian tube all can become microphonic due to their construction. Line stages with high gain are not a very wise mating. A tube being noisy on a line stage can be quiet in a phono stage.

 

No one has ever had a discussion this interesting a discussion about MOSFETS.

 

Strangely enough many ECC88 sound better with more air and musicality compared to their bigger cousins like E88CC and E188CC.

i have found this to be true sometimes as well

experienced tube rollers understand that with small signal tubes, sometimes a small amount of sympathetic ringing/microphonics can add a positive character to the sound -- more air, more reverb, more depth to the soundstage - whereas a highly ruggedized military spec tube with dual or extra triple mica supports etc etc can sound ’dead’ in comparison

i have always liked the 60’s amperex bugle boys with ring getter (not a-frame) for that reason, in many cases they provide the ’goldilocks’ sound