Real world Loudspeakers what does very good cost ?

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I know what I wrote was fragmented, thank you, regardless.

Still, I am missing your point.  (If you were missing my point, I’d be happy to reword it.)

Regarding my English, feel free to lecture me, you will find lots of issues with my grammar.

Whenever I post a question though, I do my best to not confuse the community.

I personally think start with an efficient speaker. This gives you much more flexibility with amps at least.

Volti, Fleetwood are a couple good examples. Used is rare. Both are made in USA. Others DeVore, Charney are excellent as well. These all in your range, new. I have seen some DeVore used, not often.

These would sound great with a 3 watt tube amp. Luxman, Pass, Ayre, sugden all make nice solid state amps. You would not have to search around for 200W plus amps. Not saying those systems wouldn’t sound Have fun.

I'd have to find an efficient speaker I liked to do that. I think, conversely, that watts, and very good ones, can be had for far less money these days than years ago with the advent of superior A/AB designs and the newer Ds.

I used to think $25-30k for the good speakers to stand out (or as another aptly put it) to show fewer of the characteristics one doesn't want to hear. I think better adn newer design has pushed that number down, maybe $15-20k for truly world-class stuff if chosen correctly with the associated equipment.

But I'm 100% in the used camp and could never have afforded the Raidho D2s I love if bought new. $10-20k used would buy something fabulous; add subs if needed.

I'd jump on those Joseph Audio Perspectives in a heartbeat if I had no speakers. I think they are a good buy and could be a 'final' speaker for someone; they are that darn good.

@musicaddict I think there are different speaker price points where value peaks and from where you'd have to make a big jump to increase SQ along with component upgrades. From what I read here, you can have the big boys (Sonus, Dyna, Joseph, Harbeth, etc), used around 12K - when people here want to make the jump and sell their used speakers - at 40-50% discount. I have no idea about the next peak, that's out in space from where I sit. (well 10K is out in the stratosphere too but it's fun to watch)