Is soundstage DEPTH a myth?


Ok, help me out fellas. Is it a myth or what?

I’m a good listener, I listen deep into the music, and I feel like I have good ears. But I can’t confirm that I can hear soundstage depth. I can hear 1 instrument is louder, but this doesn’t help me to tell if something is more forward or more behind. Even in real life and 2 people are talking, I can’t honestly say I know which one is in front.

The one behind will sound less loud, but is that all there is to soundstage depth? I think the answer I’m looking for has to do with something I read recently. Something about depth exist only in the center in most system, the good systems has depth all around the soundstage.

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@normb -

Of course, those among the audioscenti here who have golden or platinum ears and hearing BEYOND that of mere mortals will argue to the contrary.

But… that’s what they do.

Sometimes it takes a lot of effort to keep convincing yourself you’re better than.

                                                  Who asked you?

                       fyi: AudiogoN is what’s referred to as an, "open forum".

     Cast aspersions (or: project your personal flaws on others) and you can expect a response.

 

The OP asked if there was mythology involved, I accommodated him with the POV of an EXPERT/professional in the field.

       Did you neglect to read the quote, at the end of that article, oh Great One?

                                                     ie:

Trickster Pass reminded disbelievers: "You are welcome to take my remarks as entertainment."

                                        I WILL (and: yours as well)!

                                                Happy listening!

 

@ czarivey - You are correct, it all begins with the quality of the original recording!

After a wonderful recording has been made then you have all the following issues that smear the image so you cannot perceive depth:

  1. Nonlinearity and analog and digital converters
  2. Phase shifting in crossovers
  3. Distortion in amplifiers
  4. Distortion due to limit physical limitations of speaker cones
  5. Most of all the effects of your room

A way to fix this is using Dirac live. Dirac Live room correction software applies state-of-the-art, patented technology to analyze and digitally reduce room impact and enhance speaker performance, and optimizes the sound with respect to frequency and time. Dirac Live delivers a larger sweet spot, accurate staging, clarity, voice intelligibility and a deeper, tighter bass.

 

 

In the real world ---- not the make-believe world of the recording engineer [I can say this because I was one] --- musical instruments and the human voice have special characteristics depending on your proximity to them.  The degree of warmth that you perceive increases as you become closer to them.  It is that degree of warmth that subtly informs the listener as to the distance [thus the depth] from which the listener is located from the performer [vocalist or instrumentalist].  I once had the Concertmaster [Principal Violinist] of my orchestra [an earlier career] complain that no recording ever represented his conception of his own playing.  When I pointed out that his instrument was clamped between his chin and his collarbone and that HE heard characteristics of his instrument that NOONE else COULD hear because of the direct conduit to his ear, he nodded and agreed.  He was as close as one can get to the source of the music.   Most recordings are the recording engineer's idea of what you should hear and are compromised in ways that we can't imagine.  Orchestral music was hilariously interpreted by the engineers at Columbia Records when every solo instrument was represented in what I like to call a "Totem Pole" in that every solo instrument was dead center, one on top of the other !  With a twist of a "Pan" control, any input can be moved across the room and that vocalist who was sitting next to the pianist can quickly be moved next to the bass player.  Commercial albums in which the performers are actually contributing from different cities are magically mixed by the engineer into a hopefully agreeable combination of sound.  Some are obviously suspect and others are wonderful.  We haven't heard the "real thing" since 78RPM recordings were recorded in one take with zero editing.