Nearly all manufacturers do not advertise/exhibit their product measurements? Why?


After my Audio Science Review review forum, it became apparent that nearly the only way one can determine the measurements of an audio product is wait for a review on line or in a publication.  Most equipment is never reviewed or is given a subjective analysis rather than a measurement oriented review.  One would think that manufacturers used tests and measurements to design and construct their products. 

Manufacturers routinely give the performance characteristics of their products as Specifications.  Those are not test measurements.

I searched the Revel speaker site for measurements of any of their speakers and could not find any.  Revels are universally lauded for their exceptional reviewed measurements.  Lack of published manufacturer measurements is true for nearly every speaker manufacturer I've searched for on line, perhaps several hundred.   Same is true for amps, pre-amps, DACs, transports, turntables, well you get the picture.  Do they have something to hide?   I doubt the good quality products have anything to hide but poor quality products do.  

ASR prides itself in providing "true" measurements that will aid in purchase decisions.   Why don't the manufacturers provide these measurements so that reviewers can test if they are truthful or not?

Then there are the cables and tweaks for which I suspect that there are inadequate tests available to measure sonically perceived differences but which objectivists believe don't exist or are "snake oil."  

Well, please chime in if you have some illuminating thoughts on the subject.   

I would have loved to see manufacturers measurements on my equipment and especially those that I rejected.  

fleschler

@jl35 

To be honest, I'm starting to think so.

A secondary account; to defend himself. Kind of like an underground bunker. But he's throwing beanbags...not rocks.

Is this the same master that measured a large panel speaker like it was a small bookshelf speaker? 

if only... @amir_asr had joined audiogon and tried to answer questions on the forums like everyone else, wasn’t so argumentative, and hell, even if he had the wrong answers to every question...at least we could say he tried...the key for him: "be humble."!!!

Kind of the like a kid back when I was in elementary school (like 20 years ago) who always got participant ribbons. I was a jock and a cool guy, so I tried to help him by telling the bullies to back off, and they listened to me.

The gym teacher at the time had to lie to him - telling him he got "the best ribbon" for each sport/challenge. Cool story, right?

@kenjit - I think @invalid has a question for you...

It seems neither likes recorded music played on stereo system. Maybe neither actually likes live music either. 

@kenjit 

Like my Uncle used to tell his brother: "Who died and made you King?"

The meaning here is simple. You shouldn't try to take on a responsibility unless someone wants you to help them. Nobody asked for ASR. A great disservice is being done to manufacturers of audio equipment. The improper reviews and measurements do not correspond to real-world performance. I have nothing against your "master" personally; however the impact he continues to have on this industry is overwhelmingly negative. 

It's like if 100 people were to write a bad Google review and 1 star Glassdoor reviews for Madrona digital (Amir's company). 😃

@amir_asr 

I've gone over some of what I've written to you....perhaps I've been a bit harsh. So sorry about that! Please consider how you are impacting the livelihoods of employees when you negatively review otherwise good audio gear. Poor sales figures = layoffs.