Speaker Height Problem


I recently dipped my toes into building a dedicated 2 channel system, with pertinent components for this discussion being an Anthem STR integrated amp, and Paradigm Persona 3F speakers. In general, I am very pleased with the upgrades from my home theater listening.

However, while not thirsty for huge low end performance, some music has sounded as though it is missing some mid and low end, to the point that I am looking at sub options.  And I have run ARC each time I add a component and/new cables.

My listening room is approximately 13’ wide x 20’ deep x 10’ high.  Due to original configuration of the room as a theater, my primary listening spot is centered 10’ from speakers and elevated 6” on first viewing platform (ie speakers are sitting 6” lower)

My laser level has my ear height at 8” above the top front edge of the speakers (11” above center of top tweeter). When I slouch down 11”  they sound like different speakers!  All of a sudden, not only am I getting mids and lows I wasn’t hearing, but the sound stage sounds deeper.

What is the ideal level height of the speaker top tweeter with relation to my ears? The 3F’s have 4-driver, 3 way floorstanding bass reflex.  

What are my placement options?  
I’ve thought maybe a raised box (which would need to be very sturdy…any suggestions?), or even a wedge that would tip the speakers upward enough to aim at ear level.

Any advice is greatly appreciated…thanks!

javaruke

Speaker placement is all about listening after some basic rules are followed.  A subwoofer does add a degree of realism and excitement, especially to movies, so I definitely encourage you to follow through with that thought.

In spite of the fact they are floor standing speakers, I suggest you look at a speaker stand to raise it up to a higher level. 

Do make sure you have the polarity correct on your speaker wires - this strikes me as a possible polarity problem.

When I slouch down 11” they sound like different speakers! All of a sudden, not only am I getting mids and lows I wasn’t hearing, but the sound stage sounds deeper.

At least you know your starting point. Seems tweeters need to be at ear level for best imaging.

Contrary to your situation i need to raise a little for the ultimate depth imaging but that is easier.

You can make 11-12" (including feet) boxes made from mdf or plywood filled with sand (more economic solution), how far you go in designing, looks and construction is up to you. Something like Arcici used to do for B&W 801, or search for low speaker stands that can fully support your speakers (cabinet width and depth).

Both can work.

 

Whatever sounds best. You have to.

Every speaker is designed for a "best" height, but the designer was not in your room.