room size question.

I think Audio Physics had an article on speaker placement on their website.  Not sure if it is still there.

Equipment is also a big factor for soundstage depth and layering but pulling speakers off the back wall can sure help!

 

I have an 11' x 11' room and big speakers.  I have seen differences in the Preamp and the soundstage.  Also the recording itself make a big difference.  I have bad vinyl and bad CD's. As well, the reverse.  The best I had was using bass traps in all corners, but my wife made me remove them because they were "Ugly".  I tried to pain them white, a very bad idea.  Buy white ones, they are said to yellow after a time, but still my recommendation.  

Got an Anthem STR Preamp that has ARC, (Room Correction), not set up yet, but my next attempt.  

Another question is, are the polarities of the cables all correct?  

@bigkidz 

pulling speakers off the back wall can sure help!

speakers have always been away from the wall and a few posts before yours, i had mentioned that the speakers are now 30" from the back wall.

@gregchick0 

The best I had was using bass traps in all corners, but my wife made me remove them because they were "Ugly".  I tried to pain them white, a very bad idea.  Buy white ones, they are said to yellow after a time, but still my recommendation.  

as mentioned in the beginning.....i have GIK acoustics and do have corner bass traps already.

after moving the speakers and adjusting the subs, had the wife listen last night to a few songs and she says that it sounds like the singer is right there, which again , is just the center imaging is there and there are times  you can hear / vision something behind the speaker, like a cymbal but that is it.     

Getting a big truthful soundstage is difficult in smaller rooms and where either the speakers or the listener (or both) is too near to the walls, resulting in reflections that break up the soundstage.

Padding out the walls too much is one answer but this leads to my reason for posting here.  Removing room reflections etches the image and makes it more like listening on headphones.

One answer to the small room problem is to migrate to headphones.

speakers are now 30" from back wall and 26" from side wall.      if you move them to far apart, then you lose imagining and just sounds like 2 speakers playing.  brought them closer together and it images just fine....but again, no soundstage. plenty of detail and vocals are clear, just missing that one thing.              

I am confused. You say "it images just fine...but again, no soundstage. Well, imaging IS soundstage. I think you have to define what you mean by imaging and what you mean by soundstage.