Denafrips 12 anniversary


I have heard Denafrips new 12 th anniversary Terminator+ 

it is $1000 more ,and just slightly better a bit warmer and slightly more refined in detail , then the previous + another guy in are multi state audio club the The terminator 12 anniversary and compared to the T2/ and price only $300 more  this is a far better deal the 12+ anniversary now $7500 Waay overpriced it is 98% thesame as the regular terminator2 ,12 anniversary .

you can buy the HoloSprings May KTE for under $6k 

the Terminator2-12 anniversary is by far the best bargain out there and being under $5k. A Best Buy , I would have  bought the + dac if it just went up $3-400 like it’s sibling ,a bit greedy ,and the Steve huff  review ,almost a carbon copy of the previous + dac review it’s your $$ just our viewpoint from a value ,performance perspective.

128x128audioman58

@soix @charles1dad  I have the LessLoss Echos's End R2R Dac and the LessLoss Firewire 640X in my system and I will tell you it is my end game DAC. It has replaced a a Simaudio 680D and I had gone round and round with all the China DACs and was quite happy with my 680D until I decided to do the in-home demo from Constantine @ LessLoss Echo's End R-2R DAC| Atelier 13 Audio (atelier13-usa.com).

The sound is fantastic, natural, no digital fatigue and I can listen all day. Nuteral and natural sounding, not shrill, no sharp digital edges. Just great sound and music. Mated with my Innuos Zenith using the Innuos Sense app I am in heaven and find myself listening to my digital front end more than my analog. 

Construction and build quality are solid, solid wood. 

All the marketing hype here is true. Get a demo done ASAP!! And see if it is right for your system and room. 

Meet Echo's End: our new discrete precision resistor R-2R DAC with multiple integrated Firewall technology

Do you feel let down by the promises of modern digital audio? In the early 90’s, Sony and Philips were advertising “perfect sound forever,” yet today, don’t you feel cold, empty, and tired from the mechanical sound of digital? Does your direct experience lead you to question the “numbers race?” Isn't it suspicious that, under proper conditions, standard resolution can actually sound better than high-res? If so, Echo’s End is for you.

Imagine a sound so smooth, so liquid and organic, that you’d no longer even know, or even care, whether it is digital or analog. Sampling rates mean nothing. Imagine feeling the intricate emotional stimulus of every performance, regardless of digital source. There’s an audiophile saying that goes, “never blame the source material.” Echo’s End is the DAC that lives up to it!

LessLoss has been perfecting the art of digital conversion for over 18 years. We never take part in the corporate rat-race of chasing popular fashion. We always know that sonic performance has primarily to do with Jitter reduction, and that Jitter is always going to be contended, since it is impossible to measure with authority. We work by ear where the lab equipment can’t follow. As a result, today we have over 5000 satisfied customers in 65 countries, and counting. This is only because of confirmed experience in real-world systems by real-world people. We hardly advertise. We don’t really have to.

Echo’s End is the perfect DAC when you want music to flow just as it does in nature. You don’t get harshness or masking by digital “same-ness.” What you do get is an easy-to-use, fully automatic digital-to-analogue converter whose sole purpose is to provide the best possible audio quality. You won’t find external buttons, nor lights, nor animated display screens. Echo’s End is fully automatic. Just connect a digital source such as USB, S/PDIF, or AES/EBU, and Echo’s End will automatically find the signal and convert it to beautiful analog sound. At the outputs you have directly converted analog signal, with absolutely no components in the signal path. No chips, no op-amp buffers, no caps, no transformers, nor any tubes.

The sound quality is fantastic. We’ve incorporated on-board Firewall modules, a special technology for conditioning power developed and manufactured exclusively by LessLoss. This raises the sonic performance to unbelievable levels. All parts in the Echo’s End, both mechanical and electrical, are fixed directly to wood, and point-to-point soldering allows for the smoothest possible signal flow, ensuring the most liquid audio reproduction imaginable.

With Echo’s End, you get four digital inputs and two types of analogue outputs. You can play any PCM audio up to 192 kHz, and even DSD.

Echo’s End is a great tool for those who want to simply “set it and forget it.” You don’t have to play around with menus, settings, or remotes. You get top performance and peace of mind knowing there are no unnecessary features. Echo’s End is pure and simple, and this is part of what makes it sound so good.

The DAC ships in a water-tight, custom padded flight case and arrives by courier in 3 days or less. You have our 30 day return policy which guarantees your satisfaction. It is easy to purchase right here. You know you’ll be in good company because we are audiophiles, just like you. We don’t make new gadgets just because they are in style. The junkyards are full of disposable gear as it is. Our creations have a lot more soul. Everything we do is born of personal passion.

Read the independent reviews, and see what impact Echo’s End has had on others. Then come back and order yourself one fantastic audio machine. We’re in it for the sound, and we really mean it. Join us. You won’t be disappointed.

 

 

@charles1dad Has anyone compared the Lessloss DAC to the Terminator?

@soix 

Not that I’m aware of. I just know that Lessloss is a quality product and feedback regarding their DAC has been very positive. They seem to have a more European than North American penetration.

Charles

LessLoss is located in Lithuania. That may in part explain their greater presence in the European market. 

I never hear about the Venus model.  Everyone agrees the Ares is warm and rich and amazing for the money and the Pontus is the sweet spot then everyone jumps right to the Terminator.  Is the Venus too close to the Pontus?  What is the story??

@alerrico I have the Venus II dac. It is very close to the "Original" Terminator. Alvin Chee said as much. I also have a local friend that had a Pontus II, then a Venus II. He said the Venus was very good. His father bought a Weiss 501 and handed down to him the Terminator version 1 and he told me that they are VERY close. So the Venus is probably very good for the money. I really like mine in my $60K system. It holds it’s own. I hope this helps.