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17 of 23 speakers in my studio and home theater systems are internally powered. My studio system is all Genelec and sounds very accurate. I know the best new concert and studio speakers are internally powered there are great technical reasons to design a speaker and an amp synergistically, this concept is much more important to sound quality than the vibration systems we often buy. How can an audiophile justify a vibration system of any sort with this in mind.

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@donavabdear Small minds see the world as dogma or polarity. Both accurate and musical is what mastering studios are about. Both. Mixers can use your speakers. My room would blow your mind. Mixers still use Auratones or NS-10. I’m not a mixer. What’s your name and credit list ? Naive and overconfident trolling from beginners or worse failed pros is what this looks like. My system is both accurate and beautiful. Top tier globally. Every room is one persons opinion. It’s a bias. We use science but music engineering is not a science experiment. It’s a humanity exercise. Connection. Not perfection. Yes I knew beautiful Al. And it’s spelled Capitol. I use Al’s personal dCS Bartok here every day ... for my headphone amp. Sits next to his memoir. Loved Al. Don’t evoke the name of the dead to make your ignorant point. That’s manipulative and wrong. Bricasti M1 SE is true high end. The Allnic A-6000 is better than the best solid state. Evolution Acoustics MM3 Exact and MMMicros are both accurate and beautiful. Acoustic Zen cables are levels above what’s in any self powered monitor. You’re who again ? Nameless troll? Fact is self powered speakers have zero intrinsic benefits. Except cost and convenience. Some are better than others but it’s just another imperfect approach in a world of imperfect compromises. Name and credits list please. What’s your equipment history ? Again sir, it’s about our personal EVOLUTION with monitoring. What you think you know today will change. Or you stopped thinking. Dogma is for fools. Come visit me anytime.  Apple. Capitol Studios. Dolby. They've all been here.  

Fact is @brianlucey, that your MMThree Exact is an active speaker, and you don't seem to understand this. The woofer section is powered, and shapes the frequency response of the amplifier to enable a very low -3db point. Your primary monitoring speaker is an active speaker. That seems to negate your views on active speakers.

For the Trinnov processor, one of its primary functions is to measure and correct the speaker response. It injects test signals and measures from its output through your amplifier, through the speaker, to its measurement microphone. It then corrects frequency errors, and phase errors of the combined system. It does this independently of the room correction function and surround decoding. A similar process is an aspect of a fully active speaker, but the manufacturer can do it more accurately as they don't have environmental interference in their measurement, worry of component drift, i.e. from a tube amplifier, and then can directly control each driver, not just the system as a whole.
 

 

Perhaps my expectations are too high to expect adults to tone down the insults and chest pumping, and discuss this subject in something other than falsehoods and misconceptions, a subject, you may guess, is near and dear to my heart.

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The evolution acoustics speakers are not very good. They are just another 'wooden box with drivers'. Same story. Also the fact that it is a multi way speaker is an imperfection. You do not seem to realize that your expensive speakers chop the music up into bass, mids, treble, and then is joined back up. Unfortuately this is not perfect sound. That is unnatural and does not happen in nature. Until we have perfect drivers, that can do 20hz to 20khz without beaming you will not hear perfect sound. If you think you are hearing perfection then your ears arent good enough im afraid. Perfect sound does not come easily. You have been warned. 

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brianlucey oops I spelled al Schmitts name wrong and Capitol Records wrong, sorry. Al Schmitt was very kind and he was incredibly humble and unassuming. He wanted to show me all around Capitol and the reverb rooms but I was a little star struck to be honest I didn't want to be a pain. He thought what I did was cool (movie sound) and I thought what he did was cool (music) . His speakers were Tannoy he told me they had a custom crossover made by Doug Sax, they sounded awful very very heavy midrange of course I said nothing. I was there because the artist knew I new how her voice should sound the producer was Don Was. I didn't say a word about the sound I knew she was in good hands. I say all that because you respect Al Schmitt and he used literally the worst sounding speakers I've ever heard in a studio, this goes to show it's not about how expensive or perfect the monitors must be they just have to be consistent then you can make decisions in reference to them. I worked with many actors who got 20M for the show we were working on Tom Cruse, Leonardo DiCaprio, Anthony Hopkins etc. and I had to get their voice right because I had to capture their performance, but many times we had to tell the Director to do another take because something went wrong, believe me Jim Cameron on Titanic didn't want to do any take again for sound but he usually gave in after screaming at me it takes a lot of confidence in your monitoring system to ask for another take at $3000 a minute. Thanks for answering me, you are arrogant but confident and it's nice you invited me to your room. Best