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17 of 23 speakers in my studio and home theater systems are internally powered. My studio system is all Genelec and sounds very accurate. I know the best new concert and studio speakers are internally powered there are great technical reasons to design a speaker and an amp synergistically, this concept is much more important to sound quality than the vibration systems we often buy. How can an audiophile justify a vibration system of any sort with this in mind.

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brianlucey Maybe no one is on your sound journey, maybe you use the greatest equipment in the world and we are all simply lucky to hear your musings on equipment. If you were half half the engineer you think you are you would understand that if a studio uses the greatest, warmest, most orgasmic equipment ever it's not a very good studio, Why because studios are not supposed to sound good they are supposed to mix music that will sound good on the most systems. You mentioned MS-10s bad speakers that are the industry standard, why because they sound not so great. One of the oldest tricks in the book is before the mix is finished you go out with the producer and put the track in your car that's where most people listen to music.

Audiophiles often have much better systems than studios, this is the audiophiles place in the sound world, not the studios.
I have been in sessions with perhaps the greatest mixer ever Al Schmidt at Capital records he used his own monitors that honestly didn't sound very good at all but it didn't matter he knew what to expect from them that's what counts. Your song and dance equipment wise doesn't hold any weight supporting your arrogance. Good luck.

@donavabdear Small minds see the world as dogma or polarity. Both accurate and musical is what mastering studios are about. Both. Mixers can use your speakers. My room would blow your mind. Mixers still use Auratones or NS-10. I’m not a mixer. What’s your name and credit list ? Naive and overconfident trolling from beginners or worse failed pros is what this looks like. My system is both accurate and beautiful. Top tier globally. Every room is one persons opinion. It’s a bias. We use science but music engineering is not a science experiment. It’s a humanity exercise. Connection. Not perfection. Yes I knew beautiful Al. And it’s spelled Capitol. I use Al’s personal dCS Bartok here every day ... for my headphone amp. Sits next to his memoir. Loved Al. Don’t evoke the name of the dead to make your ignorant point. That’s manipulative and wrong. Bricasti M1 SE is true high end. The Allnic A-6000 is better than the best solid state. Evolution Acoustics MM3 Exact and MMMicros are both accurate and beautiful. Acoustic Zen cables are levels above what’s in any self powered monitor. You’re who again ? Nameless troll? Fact is self powered speakers have zero intrinsic benefits. Except cost and convenience. Some are better than others but it’s just another imperfect approach in a world of imperfect compromises. Name and credits list please. What’s your equipment history ? Again sir, it’s about our personal EVOLUTION with monitoring. What you think you know today will change. Or you stopped thinking. Dogma is for fools. Come visit me anytime.  Apple. Capitol Studios. Dolby. They've all been here.  

Fact is @brianlucey, that your MMThree Exact is an active speaker, and you don't seem to understand this. The woofer section is powered, and shapes the frequency response of the amplifier to enable a very low -3db point. Your primary monitoring speaker is an active speaker. That seems to negate your views on active speakers.

For the Trinnov processor, one of its primary functions is to measure and correct the speaker response. It injects test signals and measures from its output through your amplifier, through the speaker, to its measurement microphone. It then corrects frequency errors, and phase errors of the combined system. It does this independently of the room correction function and surround decoding. A similar process is an aspect of a fully active speaker, but the manufacturer can do it more accurately as they don't have environmental interference in their measurement, worry of component drift, i.e. from a tube amplifier, and then can directly control each driver, not just the system as a whole.
 

 

Perhaps my expectations are too high to expect adults to tone down the insults and chest pumping, and discuss this subject in something other than falsehoods and misconceptions, a subject, you may guess, is near and dear to my heart.

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The evolution acoustics speakers are not very good. They are just another 'wooden box with drivers'. Same story. Also the fact that it is a multi way speaker is an imperfection. You do not seem to realize that your expensive speakers chop the music up into bass, mids, treble, and then is joined back up. Unfortuately this is not perfect sound. That is unnatural and does not happen in nature. Until we have perfect drivers, that can do 20hz to 20khz without beaming you will not hear perfect sound. If you think you are hearing perfection then your ears arent good enough im afraid. Perfect sound does not come easily. You have been warned. 

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