Thiel Owners


Guys-

I just scored a sweet pair of CS 2.4SE loudspeakers. Anyone else currently or previously owned this model?
Owners of the CS 2.4 or CS 2.7 are free to chime in as well. Thiel are excellent w/ both tubed or solid-state gear!

Keep me posted & Happy Listening!
jafant

Greetings All. i have been remiss from posting so here goes.

1. i do use the GAIA feet under my 3.7’s and i liked what they did as the speaker actually got a little richer sounding.

2. the 3.7’s do require some heavy duty amps and i use the PS Audio BHK 300 mono blocks, but even their stereo 250 amp did a great job when i had it.

3. I have been contemplating updating with new speakers and per Jafant’s urging, i will be sharing some of my findings here. My criteria for speakers would be that they would be USA made, and have dealers near me. Lucky for me there are two guys who have shops nearby and both are friends. one sells Wilson and i have listened to the Sabrina’s and the Sasha’s, and the other guy sells Magico and i have listened to the A5’s. Jafant warned me that i would have to spend some serious bucks to improve on the 3.7’s and he was correct. I liked a lot of what the Sabrinas did, but they lacked the openness and transparency of the 3.7s. on the other hand the Sasha’s were stunning but a bit more than i had planned to spend at $39K. Have heard the Magico A5 twice now and, like the Sabrinas, they did a lot I liked but i think the room they are in really holds them back as they are very close to the side walls. the owner said that he would bring them to my home in Jan. for a weekend audition. That would be the only way i can know how they really do. One of my complaints about the 3.7’s (and with all Thiel speakers going back to my first pair of 2.0’s in 1985) is that there can be an irritating glare when playing compact discs. So i recently got the new PS Audio DAC (I am a Beta tester) and the glare was reduced significantly. I asked Paul McGowan about that and here is his response:

The lower noise floor doesn’t net out in the way people might think (less audible noise). All the efforts at lowering noise by galvanically isolating everything removes jitter and that is almost always audible as glare. Also, the improved output transformer and output stages have a lot to do with the better sound.

 

The bottom line is that the Thiels are just ruthlessly revealing, and that why i heard the glare as it was a digital artifact. They sound a lot better now that I am using the new DAC. Will be selling my older PS DSD DAC if anyone is interested. Please PM if so. I will be listing it soon and will sell it to anyone on this thread for $2600 which is a great price. I am a big PS fan and use lots of their gear (except their BHK preamp).

 

to quote JA, "Happy Listening"

 

 

 

 

@ronkent  Didn't you lose any bass with the Gaia footers under your 3.7s ?

Richer sound is a very good thing for 3.7s as they can sometimes sound lean.

Paired with the BHK 300 they must sound fantastic.

I will definitely upgrade to monoblocks at some point to get the best out of them.

it has been a few years since i added the GAIA footers,   but i recall that the sound was a little richer and yet a bit more detailed.   i put them on the outriggers.

In case anyone is interested,

bmorill listed a pair of CS 7 speakers on Audiogon yesterday.

Asking $2000 - located in Grand Rapids, Michigan

 

ronkent

Have you considered a tube buffer or a tube disc player ?

I had the last solid state Carver CD player design , granted it was from the 80's and it sounded digital .  It was replaced with Carvers last CD player that uses 2 tubes in the output and I love it , when I read about it it seemed that for years many considered it their reference player .  My point is that using a tube buffer or finding a tube based CD player would most likely solve your disc brightness .

You might also consider upgrading the components on your crossovers , they made a lot of improvements since 2006 .