Good read: why comparing specifications is pointless

@kota1 

If you want to get "schooled by Toole", check out his room.

Maybe you should.  Earlier you said this:

"You take Revel or some other good measuring speaker, put it in a room with hard flat surfaces and you don’t need a FR chart to know that it ain’t singing like it could."

His room has plenty of hard surfaces, right?  And he has the identical Revel Salon 2 speakers I have.  First you said such a setup sounds terrible but now put forth his room as an example of good sounding room?  You see any "acoustic treatments" there?  You don't.  Reason is that you don't need it to get superb sound.

@jerrybj 

I’ve only been in this audio game for 46 years, Amir.

What annoys most are two things:

1. Absolutes, with no tolerance for possibilities. Things are this way, the earth is flat etc.

2. Those who emphatically believe my experience is invalid, and our sanity is questionable at best.

Your sanity is not remotely questioned.  You simply have not read and understood what audio research and engineering has been telling us for decades.  Instead you trust your gut feeling about technical matters.

As to your 46 years, I am close behind you.  Years ago when MP3 came out, I compressed some tracks into it and expected to sound horrible.  I was shocked that despite being an audiophile for decades, I could not tell lossy compression from the source.  I took months of training for me to be able to do that.  Sometime later we used a large group of audiophiles at the company to conduct blind tests of the same.  They all did very poorly and lost out easily compared to our trained listeners (including myself) in blind tests.

And it doesn't matter what you hate.  Audiophiles routinely hate it when what they think they "heard" is proven to be otherwise.  It doesn't make proper analysis that led to that outcome wrong.  It shows that you need to dispense with bad protocols used in evaluating audio and learn how your hearing works.  I had to do that years ago.  That is the difference between us: I accepted science had a lot to offer me and I started over. You are sticking to your beliefs.  Why?  Because you hate what it says to you?  That is not the way to conduct your life....

@kota1 

Isn't there a lot of flutter echo?

Flutter echo?  In a room with open floor plan like mine or Dr. Toole's?  Do you even know what that is?  Clearly not.  I have never seen anyone in these argument contradict himself left and right like you do.

Well Amir, I hadn't expected your arrogance. Your assumptions are unpalatable.

I consider you a fool and us at opposite ends of the audio spectrum. 

Your blather has no effect, and I ignore your opinions forthwith, measured or not.

Btw, my system has never sounded better!

@amir_asr

You didn’t read the article about Toole’s room:

The room was configured in 2000, as a 7.1 system. The front wall was deliberately constructed as a low-mid frequency sound scattering surface using display niches and other depth variations (including spaces behind the fabric covered doors) to alleviate the boundary effect for that wall.

He has a purpose built room and the treatments aren’t displayed. If you look at the diagram his speaker layout follows dolby specs just like mine does (see the other thread I started about building an atmos room, LOL)

Good luck with your "critical listening" over at "dry wall studios". Complete waste of time, but you refuse to be "schooled by Toole" which makes you a ......