Good read: why comparing specifications is pointless

@cleeds @ghdprentice @kota1 you all nailed it and are calling a spade a ♠️.

I have never been on the ASR site but have seen the musings of Amir’s followers, and that told me enough. Watched on YouTube video of Amir’s and that was enough for me.

@kota1 

@amir_asr indeed, all the stuff you posted about Audyssey is for the consumer version with the $20 paid app. The version I use has a different license (around $200), a calibrated microphone with a serial number that gets linked to that license, and software for PC. 

I have had the Pro version for some 15 years.  Everything I told you applies to it.  You must use the editor to create a proper target curve.  And learn to measure yourself to understand what it is really doing. 

The fact that you post that output thinking your room has that kind of flat response shows that you have no idea what you are doing.  All you did was run some automated calibration and blindly convinced yourself it must be perfect now.  Instead of posting here, learn to measure your room. If you don't know how, I have written a tutorial on Room EQ Wizard:

Until then, you have NOT post a single measurement of your room response.  None.  Come back when you have one.

@jerryg123 

@cleeds @ghdprentice @kota1 you all nailed it and are calling a spade a ♠️.

I have never been on the ASR site but have seen the musings of Amir’s followers, and that told me enough. Watched on YouTube video of Amir’s and that was enough for me.

How about you go and read a review on ASR and watch a video or two before forming an opinion?  They will be devoid of this kind of bickering I am responding to. 

The software was updated in 2022, it is a new version. Get the upgrade for your Denon, good luck.

@tantejuut 

 The problem is a lack of standards in specs and measurement methods between companies and reviewers.

This is part of the problem. The biggest issue is that companies are either not measuring, or have rudimentary/obsolete gear for doing so.  Perfect example is Schiit.  To save money they had bought this old, obsolete audio analyzer.  Once they saw my measurements, at first started to complain, throw rocks, etc.  Then they got their senses and not only bought the same Analyzer I have, but substantially improved the performance of their gear.  They now publish Audio Precision reports for every product they release -- quite admirable.

Even major companies like Denon are using and producing same measurements as me although sadly they are not releasing them to consumers.

A big barrier is the cost of this gear.  THe hardware is around $30,000.  For a company though, it is reasonable to purchase  but they don't feel pressure yet.  But they will as the value of measurements continues to broaden to more and more consumers.