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Best 12AU7 Type Tubes for a Preamp

I am hoping for some help finding good quality and good sounding 12AU7 variant tubes for a preamp – I need two tubes. A price of around $100 each or less would be great but I would pay a bit more (150 ea.) for something that is likely to sound better. The unit came with JAN PHILIPS ECC82 (12AU7/5963) and I also own a pair of reissue/new Mullard ECC92 tubes. Both sets are quiet but I am wondering if there is something even better sounding at a moderate price.

Readily available NOS options I have seen include:

  • NOS RCA Blackplate or Clear Top at about $100-150 EA.
  • Amprex 7316/ECC186 at around $150 each, and
  • Mullard CV4003/12AU7 $150ea.

New options I have found (in addition to Mullard) include (among others):

  • Genalex - Gold Lion B749 / ECC82/12AU7, $70 ea.
  • Psvane 12AU7-S Art Series ECC82, $55 ea.

Thanks for any help.

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milpai
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Just 3 days ago I got a package from Brent Jesse. It contained the 1960s Mazda ladder plates 12AU7 for my Backert Labs Rhumba. I installed them and kept the preamp ON for 2 hours and sat down for a serious auditioning. I am not going to say "blow out of water" or "I was blown away", etc etc, lest I jinx them. All I will say is that comparing the Mazdas to the Psvane ART series tubes is like comparing a 23 year old man/woman with a 40+ man/woman respectively. Hope you get it. I was told that they need at least 48 hours to sound nice. They sound nice right now. I am not going to keep them ON for a long time just to let them "burn in".

Yes, the Mazdas are pricey, but they are keepers. Mind you, the Psvane ART series are not bad at all. In fact of all the current production tubes, they are THE BEST. Only after listening to the Mazdas, did I realize that the Psvanes produce excess bass that is a bit bloated. The Mazda bass is very tight. Also the Psvanes do not extend and light up the treble the way the Mazda does.

allears4u
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Excellent thread. About two weeks ago decided to shuffle the pre amp tube line up on my Raven Nighthawk/Blackhawk modified, and pure magic was the result. (User experiences may vary) Front row went Volvo/Mullard 3 hole ECC81 (12AT7 equivalent), , row two CBS Hytron 12AU7( USA) , and row three Tungsram ECC82 (12AU7 equivalent) (Austrian).. This is more revealing than any combo tried yet. Tried all low gain 12AU7's throughout but lost details. Kicked the RCA clear tops out of the line up. Blurry (May have been an off pair.) For customers of Raven Audio, Dave and James are tube heads and provide personal help and tubes for their devotees. Very nice , tested, graded, and guaranteed High frequencies now are dreamy.

kennesawjet
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if this will help

british    mullards- warm, detailed, good dynamics

german   telefunken, siemens, open, airy, good head room, great sound top to bottom

holland   amperex, phillps good sound staging, 3 dimensional, good top end, bass may be a little sloppy with some. ( bugle boys are my favorite)

tung sol, rca , slyvania, electric harmonics or any of the us made tubes are all about the same to me and lower cost.  depends on your listening taste

talk with andy at vintage tube svcs in mich  616 454 3467 very knowledgable and helpful.   tell him damon from atlanta sent you....

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