I owned the Primaluna Evo 400 integrated. It was a nice start into tubes. I then purchased a Dialogue Premium Pre and ran it through the HT input and it was a fantastic upgrade. I then went to a Dialogue Premium HP Poweramp for about a year or so and loved the sound, but felt I wanted more detail retrieval (and less heat) so I tried a PS Audio BHK250 and the detail and delicacy really was a move forward. The bass is also something else entirely, but might be a little too laid back of a sound in all honesty. In my very simple experience, the Primaluna was a great entry amp, but my BHK250 is a 15% better amp. I run tubes on the inputs and solid state on the output. If I had to scale back I'd pick up another Primaluna. But I've moved a little past it and have been happier with the detail. Will be looking to upgrade my Dialogue Premium Pre soon as well. Hope this helps.
Primaluna or not Primaluna
Hej
I have been hesitated some time now between buying new speakers or a new amplifier and have decided I will buy a new amplifier.
My list of demands:
It will take EL34, KT77, KT88 and 6550. Bonus if it takes KT120.
It will give at least 35 w with EL34 and 45 w with KT88.
It will have easy biasing using a screwdriver and with somekind of build in meter. In worst case autobiase will do.
It will use tube rectification and not solid state rectification (because I have heard solid state rectification takes away the tube sound).
It will not cost more than aprox $4000.
I have had a Line Magnetic LM-34IA once but had to much problems with the quality (bad solderings and bad balance between left and right).
First I thought it sounded quite good, but after have heard a Audion Audio Stirling EL34 SET amplifier I changed my mind. Now the LM-34AI sounded just OK.
I was told that Stirling EL34, with 12 w should be enough for listening at normal volumes with my 89dB speakers. But it was not. So here I am…
(And yes I know; a push-pull amp will never sound as a SET amp).
I have read about several amplifiers but none of them seems to fit my demands.
Here are my notes:
Line Magnetic LM-88IA - Just KT88. Bad experience with LM, both quality and sound.
Audio Research I/50 - Just 6550 tubes. Too much hassle when adjusting bias.
Rogue Cronus Magnum III - Very mixed opinions. Solid state rectification.
Raven Blackhawk Mk 3.1 - Just 6L6 tubes. Have to be imported from the US.
Tsakiridis Aelos Plus - Just KT88 tubes.
Fezz Silver Luna Prestige - Just EL34 tubes.
Fezz Titania - Just KT120 tubes (and maybe KT150 and KT170 too).
Cary SLI-80HS - Many bad opinions. Solid state rectification.
Jadis - Either too weak or too expencive.
Primaluna - ???
What makes me a little ”worried” is that Primaluna has so many build in features which are supposed to make my life as a tube amplifier owner easier.
I mean, doesn’t these fetures affect the sound? ”Less is more”?
If you have any thoughts or experience about this, please let me know.
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I own the Primaluna evo300 amp. It's a fun, great sounding product, that is incredibly flexible. If you like tailoring your own sound, don't hesitate to get one imho.
I previously owned the Pass Labs XA25. The Primaluna to me sounded better in my system. I wanted more detail and that great midrange that tubes bring to the table. |
I had (two) PrimaLuna HP's (w/KT88's) and they were good but I wanted better and more power for my not so efficient speakers. After a lot of reading and some trials I went with a Rogers High Fidelity integrated. It's stunning, This is on eBay Rogers High Fidelity EHF-100 MK2 Tube Integrated Amplifier. Ebay takes 13% so a phone call should land this far better. In your sated price the Rogue Audio Stereo 100 power amplifier would be terrific. You pre-amp is what? |
For what it's worth I have both a set of prima Luna prologue 6 monos and a set of quicksilver mid mono. I have run both through my rogue audio meta Magnum pre and love them both for different reasons. Both have impeccable build quality and have been able to easily drive the myriad speakers I have hooked up to them including magnapan lrs gallo nucleus 3.1 Sonus Faber chameleon and venere etc. I like to swap them out depending on my mood. The Quicksilver are very tubey and have a very fun nostalgic sound. That is not to say they are not detailed they just sound like tubes whereas the prima Luna is extremely detailed but does not sound like a traditional tube amplifier. The prima Luna take to tube rolling very well. If I am in the mood for Rock I tend to go with kt 120 but the best sounding tube in that amp by far are the El which they were voiced for. The fact of the matter is I don't think you can go wrong with either. I hope that helps good luck |
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