Transients hurting my ears on hifi solid state amps


I've looked at many discussions on listening fatigue and similar topics, but haven't really found the answer to the specific problem I've been having.

To me, modern higher end solid state amplifiers tend have too much slam or too sharp transients and that ends up hurting my ears even at 60db levels. Even listening to mellow jazz, the piano notes are just uncomfortable to listen to because of the attack.

I currently have Buchardt S300 Mk II speakers, which are not high sensitivity by any stretch, and are rather smooth sounding, but I don't know if they could contribute to the issue somehow?

The worst case regarding amplifiers I tried was the Rogue Sphinx V2, which is 100W hybrid Class D with tube preamp. Another I had at home for an extended period and had an issue with was the Arcam SA20, which should be a relatively smooth sounding amplifier, and it did get a little closer to what I was looking for.

I currently have a Primaluna Dialogue Premium integrated and I'm very happy with it. The amp I tried to replace was a Marantz PM6005, which is also very smooth. Both are under the recommended power rating of the speakers (even though that's relative for a tube amp), so I'm wondering whether that could be part of it.

I listen mostly to vinyl (Graham Slee Reflex M preamp) with some digital too (Denafrips Pontus II). Both are relatively smooth and vinyl, while usually being softer, doesn't solve the issue. 

I'm looking to switch back to solid state (class AB) for various reasons and I was wondering if anybody had had similar experiences and recommendations for amps? Most amps, especially higher end, tend to emphasize the dynamics, punch, agility, etc. and I struggle to find anything that would seem to fit the bill. Tubes seem to do the trick for me, especially with some tube rolling, but not sure where to go with solid state. The budget would be around 2000$.

haskisoundi

Thanks @yyzsantabarbara for the propositions and sharing your experience. Those Krells look amazing and the integrated would be perfect. Unfortunately they are out of my price range currently.

That's a pretty impressive amount of listening indeed! I'm jealous now ;) Hard to imagine that one could listen to too much music, but I understand the worry for the ears. I know there's a relation with how many dbs you can listen for how long without damage, so I imagine with the adequate volume you can listen as much as you'd like.

I'll definitely do my best with the room acoustics. I can currently only listen in the living room, which has issues acoustically. I've put some panels and did my best, but I'm limited by WAF and other factors. But there is something inherent in some amps that don't agree with me (at least combined with the current speakers) and I had issues in 3 different rooms of the apartment, one of which has a lot of acoustic treatment.

Looks also like I really need to save up and invest in higher end gear at some point...

@jdub39 thanks! How I'm feeling definitely affects this problem and I have allergies. That's a good point. I do have an air purifier in the bedroom and allergy medication at hand, I'll test out if I see a relationship between these things.

@haskisoundi 

Definitely a relationship between the two and no better than trying to listen when one has a sever cold. If you can get your allergies in an manageable state it will help with high pitched sounds as you won't be reacting to the worst offenders ragweed and cedar (and all weeds, grasses and tree's in between ) plus mold and dust. I've enjoyed more days listening since paying attention to this one metric alone and has stopped unnecessary system changes.

 

Best of luck

Thanks for all the very helpful insights and comments! Based on those and other information, I ended up with the Hegel H95. Class A amplifiers were very tempting, but pricey and didn't fulfil the requirements for ease of use. Finally, it came down to Naim and Hegel, but the Naim was supposedly the more aggressive of the two. The H95 was also described as smoother and having less leading edges on notes than the H120 or H190 for instance, which seemed to go in the right direction.

I'm really surprised by how smooth the sound is with the Buchardt S300 mkII, especially out of the box and even with the internal DAC, which is known to be rather bright and Chord-like. It's a completely different experience from the Arcam SA20 and, of course, the Rogue Sphinx. I wonder if part of the smoothness comes from the lower power (60W vs. 90W and 100W respectively) and whether the Arcam is more aggressive than I thought it was compared to other amps. Very dynamic recordings can still have transients that are slightly hard for me (e.g. snare hits) and some harsher frequencies are at times present, but I can totally live with those.

In general, it's evidently not as smooth, rich, full, 3D and mellow as the PrimaLuna in triode mode, but I was very impressed by the sound quality of the Hegel. Detailed, engaging, lifelike, very good soundstage, not stuck to speakers, beautiful spatial cues, etc. It doesn't project voices for instance in front as some do (including the Arcam and Rogue), but everything is very nicely separated and you can focus on the different instruments and voices easily.

Based on my experience, I can recommend the H95 for those having trouble with fatigue or finding amps too bright or aggressive. I have no experience on what happens once you go up the line, especially if you have sensitive speakers, but from what I've gathered, in terms of transient energy, leading edges as mentioned above, and slam, you will get a less smooth and mellow experience. However, I am curious to hear the H190, and especially the H390, even though I'm more than happy with the entry-level model and not planning to upgrade anytime soon!