Added an SUT...not sure I understood this


I just added a Denon AU-320 step-up transformer in between my AT-OC9XML cart and my ARC SP-14 preamp.  I am glad that the (relatively quiet) hum that had been present before is now gone...and I mean gone...since that was what motivated me to add an SUT.

However:

I sort of expected that I would also experience a noticeable increase in gain.  Specifically, using the 40-ohm (10X) tap, I would have expected maybe a 6-8 dB increase in volume, and more with the 3 ohm tap.  I am not hearing that, and in fact am getting the opposite effect.  This means I actually have to peg the volume control if I want to achieve 95 dB levels at my listening position, something I rarely, but still occasionally, do.

Also, I removed the 22-ohm loading resistor upon connecting the SUT.  I noticed previously that a 40-ohm loading still had the cart sounding pretty bright.  But with no loading and using the 40-ohm tap, things sound natural.  I sort of expected I was going to need to add a 40-ohm resistor (at the tonearm) to achieve the same loading.

All of this confuses me; I'm happy so far with the sound yet perplexed.  Perhaps some good Samaritan here will be able to explain why I am hearing what I am hearing.  in the meantime, I'm just going to enjoy my quieter background. 

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@woofhaven1992

Connecting to the 40 ohm tap results in less gain that connecting the cartridge directly to the MM input. On the front panel of the SUT, there is a selector to bypass the transformer, to use the 40-ohm tap, or to use the 3-ohm tap, and the gain achieved by each of these is exactly the opposite of what you would expect:

Bypass - loudest, 40-ohm tap - quieter, 3-ohm tap - quieter still.

I’ve explained to you above why running into the 3 ohm tap doesn’t work - the load is too low for the cartridge and the high gain likely overloads the SP14 phono.

The 40 ohm input on the AU320 should work - your results suggest there could be a dicky joint with your cables or the AU320 input. This is unlikely because both channels would have to have the same fault to explain your results.

You need to check your SP14 measures 47k on the phono input and that you have no other loading resistors in the chain when using the SUT.

The other question I would ask is there any evidence some moron hasn't tried to modify the AU320 - these are generally very reliable units - I have never seen one fail.

 

 

Dear friends: Sometimes happens things as what is happening here where several of you keep postng about that SUT when the OP NEEDS NOT any SUT to handle his cartridge.

Even if that vintage entry level SUT been in good shape it only can degrades the cartridge signal with out any quality improvement for the LP sound reproduction.

 

Well, go on on that " party ".

 

R.

Well this has been interesting, and now the mystery is solved.  The prize goes to @mulveling for correctly deducing that when ARC last serviced the SP-14, they soldered 100-ohm load resistors in there.  They did know I was using an MC cartridge, but wow it would have been nice if they had said something.

Anyway, this explains a lot.  Not only does it explain why the SUT behaves as it has, it also explains why when not using the SUT, the cart sounds better when I load the tonearm with 22 ohms than when I load it at 20 ohms, which is the spec for this cartridge.

I am definitely not going anywhere near that circuit board with a soldering iron, so there will be no more experimenting with this SUT for me.   I'm going to try 25 ohms on the back of my arm, and if I like that sound, start tracing everything I can to find a way to eliminate that last remaining hum.  Thanks to everyone who contributed.

@woofhaven1992

the cart sounds better when I load the tonearm with 22 ohms than when I load it at 20 ohms, which is the spec for this cartridge.

NO

How many times do I have to post. That is not the spec.

The recommended loading for your cartridge is Min 100 ohms.

Min means minimum

It is not 20 ohms

It is not 22 ohms

It is not 40 ohms

Look at the Audio Technics website if you don’t believe me

Cartridge & Stylus
Frequency Response 20 - 47,000 Hz
Channel Separation 27 dB (1 kHz)
Vertical Tracking Angle 20 degrees
Vertical Tracking Force 1.8 to 2.2 g (standard 2.0 g)
Stylus Construction Nude square shank
Recommended Load Impedance Min 100 Ohms
Coil Impedance 12 Ohms (1 kHz)
DC Resistance 12 Ohms
Coil Inductance 25 μH (1 kHz)
Output Voltage 0.4 mV (@ 1 kHz, 5 cm/sec)
Output Channel Balance 1.0 dB (1 kHz)
Stylus Shape Microlinear
Cantilever 0.28 mm Ø nude boron
Static Compliance 20 x 10 – 6 cm / dyne
Dynamic Compliance 16 x 10 – 6 cm / dyne (100 Hz)
Mounting 1/2” centers / Threaded
Cartridge Weight 7.6 g
Dimensions 17.3 (H) x 16.8 (W) x 25.7 (L) mm
Accessories Included 1 non magnetic screw driver
1 brush
2 washers
4 pairs of mounting screws: 5mm, 8mm, 10mm, 12mm
1 plastic protector
Body Material Aluminium
Model AT-OC9XML
Stylus Size 2.2 x 0.12 mil
Terminal Pins Brass
Wire Used for Coil PCOCC (Copper by Ohno Continuous Casting process.)

@dover The sheet that came with my cart says 20 ohms. AT has not been consistent with their specs on the OC9 series.  More importantly, it sounds better around 20 ohms than at 100.  Plenty of people agree with me on this.  I'm not going to load it at 100 just because you won't stop yelling at me.  I'm going to load it at whatever achieves the best sound in my system.