When a budget speaker is preferred to a high end one...


How many have experienced a situation when a more budget oriented speaker has a more preferred overall sound over a higher end speaker, something at 3 or more times the price?  What are your thoughts, experiences and how can you explain this?

agwca

@theaudioamp in the entire history of audio, no one spent more money on research than Matsushitsu (they maintained 3 institutes and hundreds of engineers, conductors, masters) ...
100K? - this is baby talk ... for example, the austic camera of the VEF factory (Latvia) cost around $ 10 million ...
or this Dynaudio

this market is monstrously overheated - my advice to you is to quit it))) It is unlikely that you will be able to create a Stradivari violin for the price of a sandwich ... there are a lot of people who want it (and these are smart guys)

I love Google experts. So much fun. A Kippel system at 100K does what far more expensive systems used to do, but it does it far better. A big turntable can increase the price. No longer a need for multimillion dollar anechoic chambers any more. All an large acoustic camera gives you is speed. Much of the cost is the anechoic chamber they are often in. You can use smaller ones for wavefront studies

There was a time when Dolby did not exist. No Bose. Heck not even Magico. Fortunately they didn’t go in with loser attitude. Dolby of late has created far more fundamental IP around audio than Matsushita has. Heard of Sonos? They could gave said we are too small and gave up. They didn’t and know are one of the largest sellers of audio products in the world

You seemed to completely lacked the comprehension of what I said about leveraging others expertise, MFG, and cost structures. There is still much room for innovation. Look at Kii or Dutch and Dutch. How about the Purifi woofer from a small company with some of the lowest distortion in it’s class.

You are not an entrepreneur. It is okay. Not everyone is.

nobody here seems to have accentuated one salient issue- the world of audio recordings is not all "audiophile-approved." the majority of surviving recordings are decidedly of sub-par audio quality, and even sub-par musical quality, and if you listen to these through a less ruthlessly revealing speaker system/total audio system with mainly "sins of omission," you stand a good chance of not being able to clearly hear the aforementioned audible sins, thereby allowing for a greater amount of relative enjoyment of a greater number of recordings then less sullied by the [now] glossed-over sins of commission on a mediocre record.

@emrofsemanon I have never found a less capable system to make music more enjoyable. That's just some bizarre phile lore that gets bandied about.

@m669326

To take an extreme case, a $200 speaker will very rarely sound better to the ttypical ears compared to a $2000 speaker. Perhaps I’m mistaken, but that’s my sense of things.

 

Mine too.

I generally agree about a calibration point but I do remember one occasion back in the 1990s when I auditioned quite a few speakers and none of them were doing it for me.

I was getting quite frustrated with the situation, the dealers and even myself (was this just me?).

I felt considerable sympathy towards the staff too. It wasn’t their fault that so many of the well reviewed designs of the day just sounded plain wrong to my ears.

As I was about to give up one of the sales staff suggested I give a listen to the bookshelf Rega Kytes (originals)... and suddenly - that was it!

Those small boxes produced a coherent sound that had no time anomalies and could communicate better than speakers costed which many times more.

I enjoyed those speakers for many years.

Eventually a friend introduced me to jazz, mainly Davis and Coltrane, and at that point I realised that the Kytes couldn’t do it full justice and began looking for speakers that could, as well as not losing the wonderful communication skills of the Rega’s.

Those Kytes cost £200 back then, so maybe they’d be around £400 today, but they sounded better to me than many much more expensive designs.

I’m fact, when it comes to the midrange, I’m not sure if I’ve heard anything much better since.

 

@emrofsemanon

Good point. Resolution can indeed be a double edged sword. Imagine watching a grainy scratchy black and white movie through the latest 4k TVs without it being remastered or upscaled.

You might be better off with something like 720p or even lower resolution.

I bet most young people today would have difficulty understanding how many of us were perfectly happy watching television on 19 inch black and white screens once upon a time.

As televisions got better - 405 to 625 lines and the introduction of colour, so did the recording side.

It had to.