Billie or Ella? Maria or Renata? Technique or feeling?


I stand back to no one in my admiration for Ella Fitzgerald's technique but all the vocal fireworks make for precious little emotion. Billie Holiday on the other hand makes you feel she's singing just for you.

Technique vs emotion also goes in listening to Renata Tebaldi (superb technique) and Maria Callas who like Lady Day makes you feel she's singing just for you.

David Oistrakh was a violinist who combined flawless technique with raw emotion. Sviatoslav Richter was his counterpart on piano. Their modern day successors are Julia Fischer on violin and Daniil Trifonov on piano.

chowkwan

@tylermunns 

"I consider jazz to be that singular, unique, original music of Parker, Gillespie, Davis, Monk, Coltrane, Mingus, Roach, we could go on and on, and further on into the ‘60s and ‘70s, Coleman, Taylor, Art Ensemble of Chicago, I could go on.  I really get excited by the music of those last three, plus Don Cherry, Roland Kirk, again, I could go on.  That’s my take".

And my take is that Jazz is first and foremost an improvisatory language whose character is not defined by whether the material being playing is original to the artist. 

We can simply agree to disagree and leave it at that. 

 

 

@stuartk ”an improvisatory language.” That’s not vague at all.

Any kind of fancy, martini-clinking music with improvisation in it? Okay.  

I’ll just wear a tux to my next gig and start scatting and getting all busy with my extemporaneous playing, doing a Katy Perry cover. That’ll be, “jazz.”

Not to start a flame war, but @stuartk, is Ravel's Piano Concerto jazz?

https://www.you_tube.com/watch?v=cJOW5mlhH_Y

* remove underscore in word youtube.

** what a rare and delicate treat for the laureates!

@edcyn 

Thanks for the compliment...but don't be that impressed...it what was presented to me by happenstance of location.

Here's a few more for ya:

Saw the original cast of "Hair" on B'way, was outstanding nudity and all.

Allman Bros at the Capital Theater in Passaic NJ when Duane was alive and they (it could be argued) were at their peak with those members. Just after the Fillmore East concerts.

Spoke with Jerry and Phil prior to a concert of the GD at Roosevelt Stadium in Jersey City.  Phil was way into talking about the sound system.

Saw the GD at RFK Stadium in '74 with the "Wall of Sound"! Simply and completely out of control in an amazing way.  The only thing I've heard live that is close was Sting at Radio City, that was awesome as well.

Oh yeah, saw Sting at the Bottom Line in NYC play the first concert in the US when Dreams of the Blue Turtles came out.  Small club (think gymnasium) and was five or six feet from the low stage, beer in hand.  Spoke for a moment. Nice guy.

That's enough for one day.

Regards,

barts

@tylermunns 

Now you're just looking for a fight.

You STILL do not get my point and I've lost patience trying to explain.

I'm done. 

 

 

 

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