funny reading this thread
all i can say is sometimes in life folks get what they deserve... 😁
Was my friend given misinformation.
My friend is just getting into audio for a music system. In his price rang I thought the Rogue Sphinx V3 would be a nice choice. He could also look at the Revel Concerta 2 line of speakers. Well he decided to stop by Magnolia at Best Buy. Not a bad setup he got a Denon 3700 AVR and a pair of B&W 603's. He said the salesman told him to stay away from integrated amps as they are not anything but stripped down AVR's without the features. So I guess all us owners of 2 channel preamps and integrated have been duped. Who knew??
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Best Buy and Magnolia. Not the same and not all stores have a Magnolia. Magnolia vs Magnolia. Some are worse than others. I have a very good friend that works for Magnolia in the Bay Area. He knows his shit. So let’s not slump it all into one bucket. The Best Buy jokes like how Bose used to be. And if the friend of the original poster wanted stereo only, I don’t recall seeing that mentioned, then yes there is no need for an AVR. If I were shopping I would understand the difference between both and the friend knew enough to say integrated so he can’t be as green a grape. I would have said scram is there someone else who could help me? And I use a pre/pro to get a combined HT/stereo set-up but I also totally understand that I MAY get much better results not using a HT piece of gear at all or using a pre/amp with home theater bypass. There is nothing wrong with using an AVR for stereo. Hell many/most do but don’t underestimate with moving away from that path can provide a much greater experience. Depends on what you are after. Some folks very sensitive like you are cutting down their set-up but it's really a case of understanding what the two different scenarios provide. But again, my real point is standing up for the Magnolia guys. They can only sell what they have. Many but maybe not all very Intune with the landscape. And they discount. Be firm.
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Way to tell it like it is! It’s post like some of those above that make see what others think about Audiophiles and count myself as one of them. Having just recently fully separating my 2/ch from my HT setup with a dedicated 2/ch preamp, the Marantz 8805 I used for my 2/ch gave me nothing but what I wanted from my setup and that was great musical playback and could have easily kept using it as such. Here’s what many miss about an avr , it can literally do it all and that onboard room correction suit on the 3700 brings in an entirely different means for good playback and that’s just the tip of the iceberg. I spoken to a few salesmen at my local Magnolia and yes there are guys just like us who love music and know there stuff. Even when I had plentiful boutique shops to frequent there always those who knew there stuff and those there for a paycheck. I’m still shaking my head at this but would really love to hear what the guy who laid down his cash thinks of his new gear. |
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it seems to me that your friend is trying to build a Home Theater system. there are 2 positive things , speakers can be bi-amped and Denon Audyssey MultEQ XT32(room correction soft with microphone ) adjusts the speakers to the best sound . I suggest you to go and listen . and maybe help to set it up correctly. you might be in for a surprise . and please let us know |
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