thanks everyone, a lot more than I expected. I will certainly look into audio note, and sparkler is very interesting, as do metronome and exposure....I also found lector. Some like project, and jay’s no longer make cd players, and I am not looking for only a spinner. Someone asked about budget, well lets just say MBL, burmeistr etc, I can not consider.
As for CEC, its under consideration I’m just worried about belts. The reason I’m looking for a top loader is its one thing less to worry about.