Subwoofer Choice Question SVS, Majico, JL Audio, REL


I have a pair of SVS-3000 subs. I have enjoyed them and they offer  a lot of bang for the buck.  I recently purchased a pair of the Fleetwood Devilles which I like very much.  Looking to upgrade my subs to match really well with my Devilles. Will be used for 2 channel music only. Want musical and  articulate bass that enhances and integrates well with the Devilles.  

Options are :

(1) SVS only this time going to the SVS-4000. Relatively inexpensive and I love their setup app.

(2) Magico A3Sub-built like  a tank, expensive though I can get a reasonable deal on  a pair and Magico will assist with the setup through REW

(3) JL Audio Fathom F112 or 113 V2- Good bang for the buck, lots of fine tuning available

(4) Rel (any of their carbon based subs)-Biggest concern is no phase adjustment. I am limited to where the subs can go so don't understand why they provide no variable phase adjustment.

Thoughts and comments welcome.

 

 

fooolish1

I have Devilles and two REL carbon specials. I have turned the subs off for quite some time since I have had my Devilles. Now thats not saying the Devilles go low so dont believe the folks who are claiming this, LOL! Spending this much on ‘unique’ speakers makes the mind think amazing things, hehe. ;-)  was it the latest stereophille that measured them to useable 50hz in room…?)  

Back to reality, yes I, too, am (lazily) looking for a ‘solution’ to fix my low freq response in my room. For what its worth, I had other speakers before the Fleetwood and those loaded the room with bass in a way that integrated well with the RELs. I also had different amplification before, blah blah.

My options are finding something that will increase transients in the upper bass region, add DSP, or swarm like Mr Duke. I’m not ‘needing’ anything that goes below 30hz, a nice to have but not a quest…. Open baffle would be wonderful, but dont mind looking for more of a finished product than GR’s OB (hurry up Magnepan, jeez!!!) since I have a shared space. My wife allows me to play (god bless) so I must at least make it look decent.

low325, FYI, Devilles were props in, I believe, the first episode of "Just Like That." 

We managed to get much better performance from a down firing REL Studio III by locating it on its side in the rooms major mode and using L&R processed low level signal from an early remote controlled Velodyne DD. While this improved its presentation noticeably it didn't equal the, at less than half the price Velodyne and its low frequency response never reached the manufacturers claim. 

I have owned the fathom 113v2 with CR1 and the S510s. The companies obviously different philosophies. While JL's features are all about the frequency response, REL has videos suggesting positioning by way of impulse/timing in reference to the main speakers. That would be impossible with the fathoms. I am confused by REL's approach. Positioning subs to sync an impulse with main speaker would realistically mean the frequency response will not be optimal. Like Duke says, my experience is that peaks and dips and long decays are easily heard and measured.  Their difference are also reflected in preferred connectivity. With my (balanced) amp, I much prefer the ease of low level inputs to the quirkiness of hi-level used by REL. 

The fully automatic EQ included with the fathoms is powerful and does allow for  more liberal placement than the RELs. I. did have personal satisfaction of getting the mains and rels just so, to even out 40Hz and below, though. Ultimately I needed a crossover to flatten a 60Hz vertical resonance from my main speakers.

It is hard to know what features are needed for both particular people and particular rooms/speakers. 

 

 

 

@m-db thanks for that bit of info on the tv show. I will have to check it out.

regarding the fleetwoods - they are solid. Just not bass impact performers in the 80hz - 100hz region. I want to hear that slap or impact here.  No one said they were but I crave this for me and the type of music I listen to  

regarding my carbon specials. I am asking them to do too much especially if I’m not willing to tune or walk them around the room as they should. Due to their size they have to stay visually appealing. I’ve used rew and I do get down pretty low but I have room boom and without some sort of eq or more room treatment the subs will just overpower.