After years of separates, I'm going integrated. Anyone else do the same?


I'm rethinking my listening room. I want my audio rack to be more minimalist vs lots of boxes, wires, and clutter. I know separates, in general, will sound better. However, at the level of my system, I'm not certain the difference would be as apparent. In the grand scheme of things of Audiophilia, my level of components are mid-fi at best (BHK Pre, First Watt J2, Elac PPA-2 phono, Pro-ject s2 Dac, ZU Omen Defs)

I'm favoring one of the Luxman Class A's (I know Luxman is getting out of the Class A business. The only way I would favor a built-in Dac is if it were upgradable like McIntosh or Accuphase. I'm guessing a Luxman or Mac built-in phono would sound just as good as to what I have now (Elac PPA-2).

So the question is, who else has gone to integrated? Do you regret the move or are you glad you did?

 

aberyclark

I have a hegel h160 and bought a Keces E40 and a topping D70s. All drive all my speakers fine. Trying to decide to either step up my speakers or go with a small but quality speaker and see if the little amp will drive it as well.  May sell the Hegel or may keep it. But size wise, and weight wise, the Keces and Topping combo is nice.  Considering a variety of speakers up to 2K or so.  Just want a nice sounding system for moderate volumes with less clutter too.

If one isn't chasing that last bit of perfection, whatever they think it may be, it can be done with great satisfaction.

 

Eugene81-every audio piece that I have owned or have heard the combined multiple components in them like a dac or phono stage have always been a compromise. It seems the manufacturers think giving you 75% of the sound quality of their best standalone dac/phono preamp is good enough in an integrated. If that’s ok with the buyer then all is good.

I debated for a while about separates v. integrated. IMO, we spend too much time talking about how it looks, and not enough about sound. I ended up with an Ayon integrated that is amazing, but had to remove a shelf to place on the rack. I am not a fan of accidentally kicking components not neatly placed on a rack. That said, I have no issues with integrated, and in fact will stay with this brand (Ayon), and integrated from now on. Absolutely nothing wrong with it, and nobody can prove differently. You don't need dual amps, quad amps to make the music sound better than you ever wanted it to.  You usually need a separate phono stage, but not always the case.

Interesting that people ASSume any integrated will sound worse than separates. I've been using them for years with the latest one being a Primare I32 with the add-on streamer and it's wonderful and sounds excellent. Personal bias is really hard to admit, apparently. 

No, not me.  I started with a receiver system back in 1973, 1 year out of high school.  Since then I have had 3 systems of separates.  My present system is still a work in progress (about 3 years to get it where it is) but new speakers are presently on order and I will upgrade the phono stage by the end of this year as well.  When I get too old and have to live in a smaller space I will go to an integrated amp system.  For now, this one is fantastic and I love every component and every change in upgrade.