Surprised by streamer differences


This from a newbie when it comes to separate streamers/DACs, having just recently dipped my toes into them.  I’ve been a long-term user of the Perfectwave DAC with a Bridge II streaming my ripped discs, Tidal and Qobuz via Roon.

Picked up a Denafrips Ares II and was using a Node 2i as a streamer.  Thought it sounded pretty good.  I didn’t do a direct comparison to the PSA unit.  

Read about streamers making a difference so I picked up a Stack Link II.  Listened to Stack/Denafrips rig and heard more detail than through the PSA rig.  

I then compared the Denafrips to the Perfectwave using the Stack streamer.  Here, I expected to hear some differences.  I did, but those differences seemed subtle.

I then picked up a Auralic Aries streamer to compare to the Stack.  I only played them through the Denafrips, but this is what surprised me.  I heard more of a difference in sound quality when swapping the streamers than when I swapped DACs using the Stack streamer.  

Through the Stack, everything seemed tight and precise.  And through the Auralic, everything seemed more relaxed and loose.

The best way for me to describe the differences is like comparing my Lexus ES330 (loose and relaxed) vs my BMW 650i (tight and precise).

I just found that kind of interesting.

 

 

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Funny…I’m using Benchmark DAC 3 HGC. I’d be interested to hear your thoughts. 
Prior to benchmark I went from Chord Qutest to Bryston BDA-3 to Benchmark. Liked the Benchmark the most. 

I have two streamers, a Node 2i and a Pi/Allo DigiOne setup. The Pi system has been offline while I build it into a custom enclosure with a linear power supply and front display. During this time I have listened exclusively to the Node 2i run through a Gungnir MB DAC and after a couple months (slow project) have found myself wondering what was wrong with my system. The soundstage had shrunk, was less detailed and overall the system was a lot less engaging. This weekend I plugged the Pi/Allo system in for some testing and the sun came out, that's what was missing. Very significant difference made by just the streamer. 

@zlone I appreciate your comments on your Node 2i versus your Pi/Allo DigiOne. I have a Pro-ject Stream Box S2 Ultra which is essentially a RPi with power supplies and USB output optimized. I was deciding between the Node 2i and the Pro-ject and decided to just go for the Pro-ject as I had heard that it sounded better than the Node 2i. Good to hear that you've also had good results with an optimized Pi-based streamer versus the Node 2i.

@zlone - were you using the coax output from the Node 2i?

I have a Node 2021 model and found it sounded a little different when using the USB output (vs Coax) to my Gungnir Multibit. Not night and day different, but I am sticking with USB as I think it is better sounding for the Gungnir. 

@zlone - were you using the coax output from the Node 2i?

Yes, I used the coax/RCA output of the Node 2i. In the case of the Pi, I am using coax/BNC. I have heard that USB is consistently better in most cases, however that port is in use on my Gungnir for another purpose. So perhaps not a perfect apples/apples comparison since I am using different input ports on my Gungnir, but still using SPDIF for both.