Primaluna?


I’m thinking about giving a full tube setup a go and Primaluna in particular.  Looking to hear people’s experiences with Primaluna in general. My main draw to them outside of tubes is there auto bias and protective features.  Wondering if people generally replace a single bad tube or if people are replacing all tubes of that type when there’s a failure.  Also would be interested if there were any other companies with at least a similar protective feature. The auto bias sounds great but the protective features are a bigger deal to me.  

brylandgoodman

Mozartfan always coming to these overarching conclusions. We’re not even talking about DHT here, pretty soon this thread will be argument about who knows what? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

OK got it,

apologies in attempting to hijack this topic.

Agree lets get back to PM. LOok every major manufacturer from china, Cayin, Doge, LM, Willenston, Yaqin, many others offer a PP KT amp for less than PL’s offerings. You can get a KT88 amplifier just under $1400 from any of these brands which easily challenges PL’s design, which ,,let me go ck PL’s prices,,,be right back.....$2800. VERSUS Cayin (My fav of all china’s manufacturers) MT45 $1300 (Includes ship!!!!). PL is going to have a hard sell very soon. There I brought this topic back to focus,

Please forget my opinions that a DHT bests a KT.

Just ignore my opinions above.

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Dealers participating 'passionately' in these forums is a double-edged sword. They may win some fans/customers, but also run the risk of alienating an equal number of people. Just sayin' ...

You are 100% right, and I rarely participate and should have limited my comments or not even commented at all. Sorry for that.  

I recognize there are a lot of great and very passionate people here with tons of experience. People that I've known for decades. To call out a group of people when there are only one or two of them saying things that I take umbrage with isn't a good idea. 

Plus I can see that for the rest of you guys that I respect so much, you already feel the same way I do and express it.  You don't need my help.  

I will shut up and only comment TACTFULLY on technical questions.  If that.  I have a lot of tasks to perform. and I'm under the gun here.  

Thanks guys and gals.

 

+1 @mozartfan 

Agree lets get back to PM. LOok every major manufacturer from china, Cayin, Doge, LM, Willenston, Yaqin, many others offer a PP KT amp for less than PL’s offerings. You can get a KT88 amplifier just under $1400 from any of these brands which easily challenges PL’s design, which ,,let me go ck PL’s prices,,,be right back.....$2800. VERSUS Cayin (My fav of all china’s manufacturers) MT45 $1300 (Includes ship!!!!). PL is going to have a hard sell very soon. There I brought this topic back to focus,

I had the opportunity to listen to a Wilsenton R8 at a friend's house a couple of days ago. Not the last word in refinement, but boy is it impressive for $1450 (sold at Amazon). My friend is going to try better tubes to see how far he can push the SQ envelope. He replaced a Naim Supernait 3 and claims the Wilsenton is quite a bit better, especially midrange. They also have a $3000 version which is built like a tank. Once these companies establish a repair facility network in the US and countries outside China, it could spell trouble for other vendors.

@mozartfan please dont get your feelings hurt, its not about your feelings. We are all here to learn…you just seem so anxious to progress to expert level that you skip right over the lessons we all need to learn. We are all on the journey but you simply jump the gun at every opportunity, over anxious to exclaim your knowledge.

 

Regarding your price comparo above, please do be sure to account for full insurance and shipping as well as the duties and costs to import, which primaluna includes in its prices. Factor that many direct from China personally imported items dont have authentic parts and tolerance of those parts can be difficult to validate.  Also please also place a value on after the purchase service and warranty. When your yaquin amp requires service, what is it worth to you to know that in advance? Lastly factor longevity in business and resale value, which the stellar track record of service, support and warranty contributes to greatly. You think your amp is less expensive but the cost of ownership will exceed the primaluna.