Primaluna?


I’m thinking about giving a full tube setup a go and Primaluna in particular.  Looking to hear people’s experiences with Primaluna in general. My main draw to them outside of tubes is there auto bias and protective features.  Wondering if people generally replace a single bad tube or if people are replacing all tubes of that type when there’s a failure.  Also would be interested if there were any other companies with at least a similar protective feature. The auto bias sounds great but the protective features are a bigger deal to me.  

brylandgoodman

Showing 6 responses by mozartfan

I'm going to repeat my mantra, **KT power amps will begin to lose market share** Its only a matter of time.

I believe, really, the future is Full range type systems, with addced tweeters added woofers.

Which speakers sound best with DHT's. 

You do not need 50 watts of power for speakers with 92+ db sensitivity.

THis is why you see chinese brand KT 88 amps prices falling.

FREE SHIPPING, all over the Inet.

But for DHT's shipping, $$$$$$.

I am glad  to have bought the DHT amp so I can post YT videos  and comments here on audiogon so i can bring attention and clarity to these  wonderful and mysterious DHT tubes.

The reason most (90%) of audiophiles went for KT series amps is for afforadibility and speaker demands.

Now with these new high tech FR + prices for the new DHT designs have been become affradble.

($2k-$5K) vs  decades ago where new DHT's ran you ,,more than I can count. 

Its only a matter of time before this new revolution begins to  take shape and pick up speed.

I think PL will also have problems with new  sales #'s as he sells more amps, which eventually will result in more  PL's on the used market.

Kevin really needs to beging having sales events, xmas and the 4th.  if he wishes to maintain sufficient market share to stay viable.

Some  audiophiles will only buy *on the deal*, not at regular price.

This is The New Economy of  economics. 

 

Yes it puts out a lot heat, but that’s the cost of 48 watts of SET magic. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

Heat factor might be a issue for some folks. But the trade off is worth it, Just find a way to add a fan or AC. DHT’s are the real deal. I know when I get KT90’s in my Defy it will give the big DHT’s a run for their money, 88’s are too **bloomy** in midrange for my FR MIDRANGE speakers. PL are made in same plant as Cayin, which is well known for super quality, craftmanship/sonics. I bought a older model PL linestage, Prologue 3, (??) had like 6 12AU7’s, my fav pre tube.. I did not do a long testing, as i found the sound a bit *unusual*. I quickly returned to seller with my generous 20% restock fee, + I paid ship both ways. Out like $500++ but at least I did not have to keep it. all AU’s in a linestage is not the right design. There has to be some AX’s to make a linestage sound correct. So PL droped the ball on that model,,luckily they droped that model. . Cayin IMHO is slightly superior to PL. PL does not offer any DHT models. = cancel PL. My interested has shifted totally away from KT amplifiers. The DHT’s offer a nuance in midrange that holds my interest.

KT vs DHT, both very close, but my vote goes DHT.

 

~~~~~If you have xover low sensitivity speakers, you can not use a DHT. You will miss that DHT magic.

Mozartfan always coming to these overarching conclusions. We’re not even talking about DHT here, pretty soon this thread will be argument about who knows what? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

OK got it,

apologies in attempting to hijack this topic.

Agree lets get back to PM. LOok every major manufacturer from china, Cayin, Doge, LM, Willenston, Yaqin, many others offer a PP KT amp for less than PL’s offerings. You can get a KT88 amplifier just under $1400 from any of these brands which easily challenges PL’s design, which ,,let me go ck PL’s prices,,,be right back.....$2800. VERSUS Cayin (My fav of all china’s manufacturers) MT45 $1300 (Includes ship!!!!). PL is going to have a hard sell very soon. There I brought this topic back to focus,

Please forget my opinions that a DHT bests a KT.

Just ignore my opinions above.

better, especially midrange. They also have a $3000 version which is built like a tank. Once these companies establish a repair facility network ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ = Bigger amp does not equal superior amp, I;d sticj with the R8. AS for access to repairs,, you are on your own. However I can tell you most if not all these chinese manufacturers build w super quality, My Cayin 17, although in storage 10 yrs, plays same as it did in 2005 (Now sold, Built like a tank to last FOREVER) I just boughta Yaqin, I have zero fears of a issue. Turn on listen to music, today, tommorow and for the next 20 yrs, Just like my faith in the Cayin. Yaqin is pre fab, at least this amp, Cayin is scaffold.

p will exceed the primaluna. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Good thing going for all PL products is the fact you can ship to Kevin for any repairs.

Buy from china direct, its your baby. I don’t wish to down grade PL, they do offer incredible build, with detailed attention to every single comonent. Which all adds to build quality and sound quality. Where I think PL excels is in the wonderful range of Line Stage offerings and especially in their tube CD player and DAC. If I were in the market for a high end DAC, PL would be my 1st and only choice over Jadis. So we all need to keep the accessibility for repaairs/warrenty in mind. PL has the edge here.

Just look at PL’s DAC ( yet I have no idea why they droped this DAC in a CD player version,,, no big deal its quite easy and cheap to find a great transport)

 

STUNNING build.

WOW.

You just know its sound high fidelity

https://www.primaluna-usa.com/primaluna-evo-100-tube-dac