Nietzsche and Runaway Audio Consumption


Came across this today. A lot of posts bring up the issue of "how much is enough?" or "when is audio consumption justified" etc.

Does this Nietzsche aphorism apply to audio buying? You be the judge! 

Friedrich Nietzsche“Danger in riches. — Only he who has spirit ought to have possessions: otherwise possessions are a public danger. For the possessor who does not know how to make use of the free time which his possessions could purchase him will always continue to strive after possessions: this striving will constitute his entertainment, his strategy in his war against boredom. 

Thus in the end the moderate possessions that would suffice the man of spirit are transformed into actual riches – riches which are in fact the glittering product of spiritual dependence and poverty. They only appear quite different from what their wretched origin would lead one to expect because they are able to mask themselves with art and culture: for they are, of course, able to purchase masks. By this means they arouse envy in the poorer and the uncultivated – who at bottom are envying culture and fail to recognize the masks as masks – and gradually prepare a social revolution: for gilded vulgarity and histrionic self-inflation in a supposed ‘enjoyment of culture’ instil into the latter the idea ‘it is only a matter of money’ – whereas, while it is to some extent a matter of money, it is much more a matter of spirit.” 

Nietzsche, Friedrich. 1996. Human, All Too Human: A Book for Free Spirits. Cambridge University Press. (p. 283-4, an aphorism no. 310)

I'm pretty sure @mahgister will want to read this one! (Because they speak so artfully about avoiding the diversion that consumption poses to the quest for true aesthetic and acoustic excellence.)

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School begins anew upon awakening in the morning.

N may have been the last of the romantics. There is a noble aspect in complete materialism in its philosophical definition. As to M and Blake they may be tilting at windmills. Impossible to know with certainty what any repercussions may be with any technology. I for one am glad for a bunch of technology, but concerned as to how the majority responds to all the images and data bombarding them from so many directions. Nature is a salve but does not address a root cause that may be impossible to define. A windmill.

Neither math nor poly.

First there is no noble or vile aspect about materialism...This is meaningless speaking...

Materialism is very easy to understand if we hove hover the history of consiousness and philosophy...I cannot explain it all here... Suffice to say that one of the main philosophical conditions to create a technological HUBRIS "progress" is nominalism.. Study what it is...NOMINALISM DESTROY PARTICIPATION... It is not vile nor noble , it is a subconscious spiritual incrementally unfolding movement from Aristotle to Ockham, an event which ask to be compensate CONSCIOUSLY to keep a spiritual equilibrium, a balance... Is it not simple to understand?

Why ?

Chinese people invented EVERYTHING to be invented BEFORE europeans till the 16 century... This is pure non debatable historical facts...Read Joseph Needham encyclopedia...

Why then China never produced the swift hubris "progress" linked with systematic powerful transformation of life and industry like in Europe? If you say that they were inferior in intelligence let me say to you that you are dead wrong...

I cannot explain all factors but i can pointed to this evident fact: a more BALANCED metaphysical EMBODIED relation with nature pervade all china culture ....Other powerful factors are linked to scripture and ideogrammatic versus alphabet language POWERFUL EFFECT ...I cannot enter in this here...

It is this balanced relation with nature that is destroyed by occidental industrialization in three centuries like described by Blake and many others... Look at the world around you......

Second point: If we cannot know what are precisely the effect of ONE technology in time , we know for sure were all technologies go RIGHT NOW: transhumanist cult of technology which consider the human animal WORKABLE not only economically, psychologically, and politically like Mandeville demonstrated but workable in his BODY...Genetic modifications for example...Read the interview with a scientist i posted above...destruction of natural agriculture, destruction of natural and human medecine, destruction of alimentation etc...CENTRALIZED AGRICULTURE’ ALIMENTATION, MEDECINE and Total control...

It is not Mandeville or William Blake who chase windmills it is you, blind to which is plain to see...I am flabbergasted by the complete ignorance of the soul, the body, the freedom, the dignity of nature, the complete forgetting and oversight of human participation to nature and the nature participation in your own body...

Third point: I am also glad about technology, i am not a luddite...My point is not to go back to cavern but to BREAK FREE OF THE CORPORATE CONTROL OF TECHNOLOGY ....

But Godddam who do you think control ALL technology on earth and for whose benefits?

You are the dude who chase the windmill created by the corporates sleepwalking publicities sorry...Not N. nor Blake nor Mandeville...

Calling Blake or Mandeville useless idiots, deluded one, chasing windmills only reveal the abyssal ignorance where you are complacent...Have you never be HUMBLED by geniuses? Any undertanding of any genius put us in a humble awareness... Only ignorant people consider themselves on par with genius...

Any true student is in constant AWE by genius...Saying that this one or this other one chase widmills means NOTHING....

Do you read news out of the official void and meaningless public journals ?

If my words seems rude think about the way you treat great men putting them aside without even knowing them and claiming to be right...

Ignorance is not an excuse, neurons may work without all information....

I am flabbergasted by the indifference and the complete lightness of some soul in the midst of one of this great world crisis and suffering...

 

School begins anew upon awakening in the morning.

N may have been the last of the romantics. There is a noble aspect in complete materialism in its philosophical definition. As to M and Blake they may be tilting at windmills. Impossible to know with certainty what any repercussions may be with any technology. I for one am glad for a bunch of technology, but concerned as to how the majority responds to all the images and data bombarding them from so many directions. Nature is a salve but does not address a root cause that may be impossible to define. A windmill.

Neither math nor poly.

What a silly read on this Christmas of 2021. I have worked long and hard to buy the gear to build my system. And now that I'm retired I shall enjoy the music my system brings forth. 

@ mahgister - Thanks much for your latest response to me.  I'm all good, so no problem.  I also often regret my passions :) 

Second, in a forum such as this, it's a real challenge to adequately express complex philosophical, ethical, religious (spirit-ual) concepts, considering the nature of the medium and its audience.  In retrospect, maybe doing so is a fool's errand.

RE: N's use of the term/concept of "spirit" seems to me to be quite different from the Hebrew as used by the ancients (I have studied Hebrew), from which you make reference.  It would have been more helpful and clear had I effectively engaged this particular quibble. But again, the nature of the forum is challenging when attempting to engage even such limited scope.

All that said, Hilde does make an interesting and potentially profitable observation by posing the question he does - just in terms of an ethical consideration some may wish to ponder.  I'm merely observing that, perhaps, utilizing N does more to confuse or obscure the matter for interested readers than provide clarity necessary for arriving at a more mature understanding of the matter.