Audiophile Priorities and Recent Topics


I'm increasingly fascinated by the number of threads that have been created lately by OP's who have joined over only the last 2 months with less than 30 posts that all seem related to the importance of wires and tweaks. While I'm not dismissing the notion that everything matters in hifi (including digital cable), it seems that these topics vastly overwhelm thread topics that clearly would have more influence to hifi audio sound such as discussions of the sonic characteristics of various amplifier topologies, the importance of simplifying the signal path, and identifying fantastic speaker/amplifier synergies, etc...

If some unsuspecting newbie were to stumble onto this forum they would likely come away thinking that a fuse or a piece of wire are the most important elements towards obtaining wonderful hifi sound. This is unfortunate. For example, my discovery of listening to a SET circuit years ago paired with speakers possessing a high and flat impedance greatly outshines any joy derived from identifying the finest digital cable produced by man. I'm simply questioning the hifi priorities that this forum seems to be obsessed with lately.

Is it just me?
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Audiogon is only rent free to those who we are stuck with reading their thousands of posts per year and instead of showing respect for the mods and the site sell their equipment on another free sales site.

But who can blame them, for example it would cost about $50 bucks to sell a $2,500 piece of equipment here.  It's pretty clear having a great site like this aong with its captive audience who are stuck reading thousands of post isn't worth $50 bucks.

An important function of this site when it started was to be a forum where audiophiles could get to know a little about each other with its important purpose to provide a level of comfort when buying and selling equipment to other known members.  To the incessant posters who have no intention to pay the reasonable fees to sell here but would rather be penny pinchers and let others pay for the site I say good riddance. 
+1 @arafiq and +1 @phasemonger

Phasemonger said it well:
4. The real forum-related obstacle to being a newbie isn’t an imbalance of thread types; it’s the bizarre viciousness that makes me hesitant to post anything.

And Arafiq nailed it with just 2 short paragraphs:
I think to be fair to the tweakers, perhaps there is an implicit assumption that you already have a system that you are satisfied with and just want to eke out that last bit of improvement. It is a hobby after all, nothing wrong with obsessing over minor details/improvements.

three-easy-payments: is it fair to assume that your concern is not so much with the value (or lack thereof) of the suggested tweaks but the sudden onslaught of the ’presumably’ newly-minted posters?

There’s a few posters that are ruining these forums for everyone else with their constant banter and overly expressed dislike for each other. Was this thread even worthy of reading? Nope. Most people that are new to the hobby (myself included) know that they should be obtaining good equipment first before diving into tweaks....

I guess I’m not supposed to post here, but I will anyway. As a newbie this entire forum seems very divided. I’ve already gotten placed into categories after less than 30 posts. If you don’t want people to join or to stay around that is a great strategy. 
I started posting here because there are a lot of topics with fantastic information. I’m new at this audiophile hobby and have shared some things I have experienced. I’m sure some of my comments have gotten eye rolls, but I really am trying to understand all the different perspectives. I don’t have equipment worth bragging about (nothing exotic) and I haven’t owned very much either so my posts are limited to what I have recently experienced. 
As someone new to the forum the worst threads aren’t the discussions about the tweaks. The discussions on the Tekton speakers have been the worst.

The only issues that I feel need any kind of micro-management on this site are those of decorum and respect; something sorely lacking all too often as we all know. I’m sure that the OP’s premise is well intended, but I wouldn’t worry too much about “unsuspecting newbies”. I don’t think that there has been a thread advocating questionable “tweaks” that has not also had plenty of detractors; and very adamant ones at that. There usually are plenty of posts that present both sides of the coin on most topics. Seems to me that this, unto itself, is a great opportunity for a newbie to learn.

As far as the supposed “overwhelming” preponderance of discussions about “wire and tweaks” goes, I frankly don’t see it that way. A quick look just now at the first 20 “Topics” of discussion in the categories “Amps Preamps” shows 4 titles out of 20 that have anything remotely to do with wire or tweaks. In the topic “Speakers” only 1 title out of the first 20 has anything to do with wire or tweaks. Hardly a comprehensive analysis of the matter, but I suspect that this is indicative of the overall picture. Now, as far as posts in “Cables”, and perhaps “Misc Audio” as well goes, we would expect there to be a preponderance of discussions about cables and tweaks. No? There is plenty of solid and helpful information available here; it’s the interpersonal bs that gets in the way.

As I pointed out, I feel that the OP’s premise is well intended and I agree that there is always room for improvement in how information is shared. However, the OP admits, and please, this is not a criticism, but simply an attempt to bring a certain perspective to this issue:

**** interconnects (I can hear a difference but it’s subtle), and speaker cables (I’m very hard pressed to hear a difference in any ****

Personally, not only do I strongly disagree with that comment, but I feel that a newbie reading that could very well be swayed to not consider the very real benefits of quality cabling. However, probably the best thing of all is to have that opinion be part of the mix of opinions which will hopefully inspire the newbie to experiment and arrive at his own conclusions. All in my opinion, of course.

Btw, decorum and respect…..and thicker skin 😊