To Stream or not to Stream


[A collective sign resonates from forum members upon seeing "Stream" in the title]  ...Before you run away, I read a number of threads dealing with streaming, so this is to ask about what I didn't learn.

I am trying to select a streaming option into my McIntosh DA2 DAC. I would like to stay south of $4k and get the best bang for my buck. It would be best if I could sit in the comfort of my chair with my MacBook, iPhone or iPad and control my music. I do not need a fancy screen on the component. They are nice, but I only care about the sound.

To make a decision / purchase I hope to get answers to the following:

  1. I have a CD collection, but none are HD. Why do people rip CDs when all of those CDs can be streamed from music services? I have Tidal and want to drop it for Qobuz. Learning more about the burning CD topic will help narrow down if should go with a ripper / streamer combo. 
  2. I can't find much on my DA2 DAC but assume it's top notch being from McIntosh? Consensus? How do I know if I should use it versus another streamer option with its own DAC?
  3. It appears that a USB connection is needed for DSD512 (basically the most demanding formats)? I can't find much on this but many of the recommended streamers on this site do not always have USB-out, which is confusing at some of the high price points!?
  4. Is DSD only achieved from ripping CDs?
  5. What are people doing to stream DSD512 or other formats of this quality? 
  6. I haven't seen anyone recommend the Roon Nucleus? If I'm not going to rip CDs, is it one to add to my consideration list?

This would be easy if I had money... Aurender ACS10 if I want to rip or N20, up. Others as well at these price points.

I see used N100s here... maybe that's my answer unless I want to rip. The Innuos is intriguing, but you have to buy a separate power supply... I just want to get this right the first time and be happy. I'm already gun-shy of making another purchase mistake like the new Bluesound Node 2i I need to sell... It's only a mistake because it does not do USB-out (as of this post) or support the formats I wish to stream to my DA2. Not a fan of its software either. 

Thank you!


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+1 georgehifi! I agree with you! The original flat transfers tend to be the best! Streaming users are trading off fidelity for convenience!
Well, in that one particular example, I would have to agree. Have not compared the two personally so will have to take the data at face value. All the more reason to trial streaming with relatively inexpensively equipment first (and with home trial).

I guarantee the convenience is worth it alone. But there are some excellent fidelity streaming recordings as well. And the greatest advantage in my opinion is the VAST amount of music one would never be exposed to otHerwise. 

+1 georgehifi! I agree with you!


Yep, with the later issue compressed ****, there’s no space of quite stuff between the loud parts, it all hectic, no chance for the ears/brain to breath, and do you think the muso’s want it that way when they originally played/recorded it
NO Way!!!!!

Well, in that one particular example, I would have to agree.
All you have to do is look for whatever you want on the DRDB site https://dr.loudness-war.info/ and get whatever issue is most green, and it will be 9 x out of 10 the first vinyl or cd issue

Cheers George
@snbeall,

Sorry to say but you’re barking up the wrong tree…. Just read on last few posts and you’ll know exactly who you dealing with! 
https://forum.audiogon.com/users/georgehifi/posts