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Blindfold Speaker testing

So if we made a  experiment where a  group of seasoned audiophiles had to choose  which speaker is best over all, 
6 brands all hidden behinda  curtain.
5 top dawgs in the xover box low sens design and 1 of the high sens PS design. How do you think the results will come out?
But we will not tell the group what speakers are behind the curtains, They will have no idea 1 of the speakers is Point Source. 
How do you think the, or lets say which 1 speaker do you think would come out on top?
No lets do this, Lets give the  group a  list of 5 speaker brands, Walsh, Wilson, Tannoy, and 2 others which are very popular, like Joseph with the Seas. 
and 1 more,
The mystery speaker is not listed, so they have no idea what speaker it is.
The ? speaker is the high sens Point Source.
Now Richard Gray hosts this *guess which speaker event* as he is a  master of these types of gimmicks and  has seasoned audiophiles fooled every single time.
Which speaker do you think will make top of the list in results??
I know.
The Mystery Speaker.
Then Richard pulls the curtain and reveals the winner.
 SURPRISEE
Got ya
The Hifi Guy


mozartfan
csmgolf
874 posts
 
The volume level must be matched,

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Absoluetly not, Vol stays the same
At least you admit it is a gimmick and not a true test. It has been proven by people willing to put the work into performing a proper test that listeners almost universally prefer the sound when it is louder in such a test. Not better or more accurate......louder. IOW, you could take any speaker and play it at 80 db. Then, while behind the curtain pretend to hook up a different set of speakers while leaving the same pair hooked up. Just turn the volume up to 82 db. Most will prefer "speaker B" even though it is the same speaker. The test you describe is never about trying to prove that one is better than the other. It is about, "Hey, I can trick these people". And you fell for it. LMAO
mozartfan OP
2,143 posts
 
No
The point of this excercise is to show how inefficient = read INEffective,,are the box xover things we all grew up with and is now longgg past time to leave those boom boxes behind.
Xovers will be shown, proved to be ~~flawed~ designs.

The very few Audiogon members who do  own AER and Vox are sitting on the sidelines, just reading these posts , and having a good laugh.
They well know what they have, which is a shame.
They ought to speak out as having owned neverly every loud speaker and now have settled on the high sens as their ultimate listening experience.
High sens owners are like a small closed niche, a Exclusive Club.
They pop in and make a few comments and pooof, gone .
For some reason they do not like to hang around here on Audiogon.
I guess they feel, why argue, why belabor the issue.
The xover group will never come over to FR and the High Sens will never ever go back to xovers.
And a wide gap separates the 2 camps forever.
There is no middle ground.
murphythecat
181 posts
 
"They pop in and make a few comments and pooof, gone ."
something i hope you aspire to do



chorus
976 posts
 
It is the Emperor's new clothes all over again.

Who wants to look the fool ?

This is why most "Experts" will tell you blind testing is meaningless.

Just remember "Everybody plays the fool sometimes..."
No exception to the rule.

That said I'm game!!!
chorus
976 posts
 
Where are the Goners who enjoy talking about the eight amps they bought so far in 2021? They are posturing as members of the rich
and famous. So lease a space of 5.000 sqft somewhere central like Denver or Phoenix and I will volunteer gather all the equipment required from makers who want to participate. PM me if anyone is serious about this.

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