Why dont more standalone DACs come with ethernet???

Is a renderer and a streamer sorta the same thing?

i smell a troll 

@jayrossi13 
I don't know all the techno babble but I have a DSDjr and use the Bubble UPnP app.  That's all I need. 

@treebeard1

I completely understand, the terminology is definitely confusing and different vendors make it more complex by adding their spin on the terms.

Based upon your use case, and the fact that you already have a great DAC/streamer, the Innuos probably wouldn't be rewarding for you. 

So its clear that many are unclear about the transition from an ethernet signal as it makes its way to a dac, including me.

this is important to understand, for me at least.

i guess an ethernet signal requires a transformation before being allowed into a dac via usb cable.

what happens here? Seems a network player without dac is whats needed, but exactly what does it do? Mostly rendering? And i guess as tom cruise said, ‘there is no substitute’.

so is a network player a renderer?