Most rooms don’t need acoustical treatment.


Why?  Because acoustical treatments presented are in virtually empty rooms. Unrealistic.

my rooms have furniture and clutter.  These rooms don’t really have a need for treatment.  It’s snake oil, voodoo science.  
So why is accoustical panels gonna help?  No one can answer this, most have no clue.
jumia
@jumia -- I think you misunderstand the general direction of this thread.   

The subject of room acoustics is well understood by those who have studied it extensively. However, it is not an issue where an amateur can do a five minute Google search and have any assurance that they've come up with the correct answer for their particular situation.   

There are lots of things like this in life.  You want your airline pilot, doctor, structural engineer, and so on, to have specialized knowledge and training for their job.  It is certainly easy enough to look up info about all of those subjects on the internet, but that hardly means that the person who does that is ready to fly a plane, operate on a person, calculate load bearing specifications, or do the many other things that people spend years training for.  

Acoustics, and all those other things, still may be mysterious to you, but that doesn't mean that others out there don't have a good handle on things.  

But, that's the nice thing about this hobby. You can experiment to your heart's content with no concerns about the plane crashing, the patient dying or the building collapsing. Who know, you may even end up improving the way your stereo sounds for you! 
Jim Smith in his excellent book "Get Better Sound" talks about the room, and how spending lots of money on your hi-fi without treating the room (and setting up the speakers properly too), at least on a basic level, means you’ll never hear the full potential of your system. A modest system in a well set up room will often sound better than a more expensive system in a room that is untreated, especially if the room has inherent problems ( dimensions, ceiling height/shape, large/many windows, too live or too dead a floor etc).
Right on the spot and my amazing experience after 2 years of listening experiments...

The truth is most people has never take the journey themselves and they are completely unconscious of the poweful impact of acoustic in 2 way:

Passive balanced materials treatment....

Active controls of the zone pressure of the room....The room can be activated, it is not only a set of passive walls waiting for the waves to be absorbed, reflected or diffused...The room is like a set of strings in a very tight compressive mechanism, a violin for example; because the waves cross the room 80 times a second in my room for example.... Zone pressure play a great part if we use them to balance the natural frequencies response of our room to compensate and balance well with our specific speakers...Helmholtz science...

No gear can beat the room at ANY price....EVEN in near listening in a small room....Unbeknownst to most....

This is my experience.... Those who contradict have never experience by themselves how cutting few inches from a straw can improve or destroy a room... I did...

The more important asset of an audio system is not the gear it is a dedicated room.....Most people upgrade gear trying to compensate for a bad room without even knowing it...They called their choices "tastes".... But in music only exist natural timbre perception first OR last, not taste first AND last....


It’s snake oil, voodoo science.
So why is accoustical panels gonna help?
It is not voodoo science at all... But we must read a little about acoustic science, comic book will not help here.... But the problem is that company sells costly ready made esthetical easy solutions... But it is not so simple , buying costly materials is not the solution at least nor for me.... And each room has specific problem because of his geometry, topology and content, which no company can take the time to solve in details at low cost...I made all my materials treatment with useless and discarded materials and i never bought anything costly at all.... It takes time and listening experiments tough... But it worked...
He is speaking with 'all the confidence of ignorance'..if you have ever heard a good room ..evaluated and treated by a professional room guru he would change his mind in a heartbeat.Of course room treatments help...if, they are properly positioned and the rest of the room is, likewise, addressed..
@patrickdowns,
Is this yours @milpai?
That is indeed my room. I have been happy with the GIK products and the improvements they provide me. Just be careful that if you make changes to speakers or speaker placements you need to adjust them. I learned that a bit late after I changed my speakers. The new speakers sounded good. But after getting the panels in the correct spots "opened" up the soundscape. The speakers no longer seem to cast the music. All music seems to come from around and behind them. I think I have the panels in the correct spot now :-)

I have a small listening space that also doubles as a computer work station. The room is quite "lively" with no soft furnishings. I lived with it that way for years before deciding that something had to be done. Found that several large glass-covered pictures were mucking up the sound, so I removed them. I then experimented with sound absorption using beach towels taped to the walls. Once I determined what was needed, acoustical panels were ordered and installed. Best money I ever spent for sound improvement.